DOOM 3 Final Video Trailer Released

Ant writes "A new Doom 3 Final Video Preview/Trailer is now out. It is about 42.5 MB big, 2.5 minutes long, and in Quicktime format. Download it from here (direct link and BitTorrent link), FilePlanet (an account required), or FileShack (an account required)."

But what are the requirements to play the trailer?

[Anonymous Coward]

A Pentium 4/Athlon 3ghz with a gig of RAM?

Re:But what are the requirements to play the trail

[mst76]

You'd be pretty close, if the trailers were in WMV HD [microsoft.com] format.

Re:But what are the requirements to play the trail

[Captain Splendid]

Trailer plays fine on an AMD 2500/512MB DDR RAM/Geforce 4 rig.

Re:But what are the requirements to play the trail

[c_oflynn]

No, he means how much quicktime sucks.

Re:Well, duh.

[AhBeeDoi]

I d/led the QT trailer and it played just fine - fullscreen too. ** psst ** Don't tell Steve Jobs, I used xine.

rumour : step through the frames

[Anonymous Coward]

I haven't tried, so posting Anon :
"f you step through the iD logo, there's a pic of the original doom 3 dude for 2 frames"

Re:rumour : step through the frames

[beeglebug]

Confirmed [updownleftright.net], and it's the original Doom head, but I think that's what you meant.

Re:rumour : step through the frames

[MasterSLATE]

I've confirmed what you have posted. At 00:43 frame 23 you can see the original doom guy's face. Its kinda spooky looking.

Re:rumour : step through the frames

[rikkards]

Some reason I don't like the new guys face. He looks like a redneck and should be wearing an old John Deere hat on his head. No offence to John Deere :)

Re:rumour : step through the frames

[oskillator]

Some reason I don't like the new guys face. He looks like a redneck and should be wearing an old John Deere hat on his head.

The funny thing is that he looks exactly like Kevin Cloud, one of the two primary artists. Check out his interview segments in the G4/TechTV spot [gamershell.com].

Re:Ah Nostalgia...

[Soul-Burn666]

Oh man the flamebait you just made yourself.

Have you even seen the game? In the high res images? The game looks pretty amazing.

The fact it doesn't "need the latest hardware" is exactly why everyone loves ID so much. The fact the top of the line machines give a breathtaking experience while the game is still very playable on the weaker machines.
Do you find it BAD that the game isn't made by a company that doesn't care for people which aren't rich kids that can afford the latest and hottest hardware? You fi

Re:Another console user...

[Soul-Burn666]

Actually i've been playing games before Doom1 even existed. My first system was a Dragon32 if you ever heard of such system.

So what if it CAN run on a console. It's not like Doom1 and 2 weren't released for consoles. Heck Doom1&2 were recently released for the GBA.
Moreover, the porting was so simple because Carmack and co. use portable technologies (OpenGL). That's why the game is so easily ported to console, linux AND mac.

Yes. I know stencil shadows existed for a while now and so did bump textures. H

Re:Another console user...

[Glonoinha]

My first system was a Dragon32 if you ever heard of such system.

Oh man, you young kids were spoiled with your fancy 4 voice sound chips, 32K RAM and 16K ROM, Motorola chips running almost a full kilohertz ... when I was a kid the PONG game was about our third upgrade. Not the fancy one with the gun either - just plain pong. And we had to work our way up to that one, after years of Etch-a-Sketch and Lite-Brite. Multi-player combat consisted of fist-fights with my brothers when everybody wanted to play pong at the same time.

But yea, I'm looking forward to playing Doom III.

Re:Another console user...

[blincoln]

Making Doom III run on a console is tanamount to professional treason.

Yes, I imagine the entire industry is up in arms over id's decision to port their game to the platform where it will sell the most copies.

Re:Another console user...

[Rew190]

"I doubt you were even around when Doom 1 came out. It's a real shame that you've even posted a reply to a long time gamer such as me. I've been around since the beginning."

You think you're a long time gamer because you were around when Doom 1 came out? That somehow invalidates the original posters points? Are you kidding?

No, "I" used to love id "so much" because they did things that "other" game companies wouldn't try. Making Doom III run on a console is tanamount to professional treason.

Two things. First of all, id is not directly doing the XBox port. Second of all, a company is not fucking treasonous if it wants to make its very much sought after game available where possible. This is good for gamers, not bad. "Treasonous" would be if a company alienated its fanbase by making the hardware requirements so ridiculous that NOONE could play it.

From all the graphics I've seen, Doom III certainly does not "push the limits" on modern hardware.

You either don't know what you're talking about despite your breathtaking amounts of experience, or you haven't seen the screenshots of the game running in high resolution ultra mode, in which case you're just ignorant. Perhaps you haven't seen the benchmarks which are showing that all of our modern hardware will only be able to run the game at around 1024*768, otherwise the framerate might be a bit sluggish.

In fact the game looks like a more adanced and rendered "Halo".

Since Halo looks pretty damn good in the first place, I don't see how this is a valid point. Doom 3 does look much more advanced, it's gorgeous. There's nothing wrong with that.

It looks like the character maps and 3D engine were created two years ago and nothing but story line and graphics were added since then.

So what you're implying is that there was a FPS game out two years ago that looked as good or better than Doom 3 or had an engine as advanced? Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

And for your information, "rich kids" were all that could afford PCs in the early days. You should pay a penalty for getting the best, that's the way the world works.

So a good developer is going to cut off the vast, vast majority of its potential fanbase for the elitest dudes with the top 2% hardware? Color me crazy, but isn't being able to create a game with a top-of-the-line engine that can barely be played on the highest end hardware today at the highest settings, yet still be able to be played on systems half as good PROGRESS?

If everyone catered to the lowest common denominator we'd end up buying everything at the dollar store.

Once again, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Go check out the minimum specs on the game then take a look at how fast the average desktop computer is. I wouldn't be mad at id just because you don't understand the concept of having the largest target market possible. id is a business, making a very good business decision that their market wants.

I would like to see a game so advanced that only the few can play it.

Then perhaps you very obviously shouldn't be seeking this from a mainstream developer?

That's the way it worked for Doom 1

Uh no, most people could play Doom 1, and PC gaming wasn't exactly a huge market at the time anyhow, it was more of a niche market. The times have changed slightly, have you noticed?

drives the industry, that moves things forward. It gives people something to look forward to. If you don't have any forward vision, then why are you here?

Remember Macworld, four years ago, when you could practically smell every non-id developer shit their pants? What we saw was the vision that gave us something to look forward to and set a standard for what other developers needed to get at to keep graphically relevant.

This tripe sounds like the elitest music fan who's pissed off because Linkin Park were so much kewler when they were underground...

Re:Another console user...

[Rew190]

I'm well past my prime as a gamer.

That much is certain.

I've got seniority on your ass

Which may be the case, but I'm not going to get into a pissing contest about how long I've played COMPUTER GAMES when your logic is so obviously and fundamentally flawed. It's not necessary and proves nothing.

I'm here to tell you that advanced gaming is disappearing at the same rate as good music

No, you just need to know where to look. The mainstream is not it, old man.

The fact that you mention "Linkin Park" and not "Genesis" or "Rush" just shows your age in so many of its adolescent colors!

Oh, please. I thought it was very apparent I was using an exhaggerated simile. I didn't think I'd have to name two mainstream bands from back-in-the-day to get the basic idea across. Sorry you didn't catch it, I guess.

I don't want to limit id software's advanced games to 2%. I just wish they would limited it to less than 30 percent of the installed base of machines. That's a big difference. You've definitely got me all wrong here.

You're implying that a mainstream company's goal should be to limit its potential user base by making system requirements extremely high. My point is that mainstream developers sort of, ya know, want to sell to as many people as possible, and thus would put time and effort into making the game playable on lower level hardware. Businesses like money. id is a business. Where is the confusion?

And if the game id had showed us at Macworld had actually came out four years ago (or even two years ago), then I would have "shit in my pants".

You'd have to be able to play it first to do that though. Part of what is going to make Doom 3 so great is it's going to be played by a lot of people while still having bleeding edge graphics. You're looking for something else, but you're simply not going to find it from a mainstream developer. It's quite simple, really. I can understand your desire for absolute no holds barred bleeding edge, but you're speaking badly about a company that is obviously not about that and would prefer to get its product into as many hands as possible. Your dismay seems a bit misguided when you take common business sense into account.

Re:Another console user...

[KDR_11k]

That's idiotic, why should they limit their engine to run only on top-of-the-line PCs when they can make it scalable enough to both run on low-end machines AND max out hi-end machines, depending on the user's preference? What was suggested was deliberately breaking compatibility, which in my book is a capital sin. Hell, why not make it Windows XP exclusive or demand a 2.6 Kernel? Why not go as far as to only offer 64bit builds? Because there is no POINT in doing that! If they can make it run well on an XBox

Re:Another console user...

[Schemat1c]

No, "I" used to love id "so much" because they did things that "other" game companies wouldn't try. Making Doom III run on a console is tanamount to professional treason.

Geez, at least wait a few more days and play the game before you get yourself all in a tizzy.
I'm sure the console port is just that, a port of the main game made for consoles. The PC version will be the full blown edition. Just don't play the console version if it bothers you that much. But there are some people out there that the cons

Re:Another console user...

[Doogie5526]

That's the exact same thing Doom1 did for a 486. If you have a better computer, you can use a higher resolution (and have multiple sounds at once). Depending on how astute you are about your graphics, there is a difference between compressed and uncompressed textures. Also, having a card with 512 MB of memory would allow you to play at higher resolutions.

Adding a raytracer would just be silly. Raytracing is for shadows and/or reflections/refractions; both of those grounds are already covered by better

Re:Another console user...

[T-Ranger]

Having a 512mb card will allow for higher resolutions? WTF?

Back in the day before video cards had texture memory, resolution was directly (root-icly?) related to your video memory. So a 640x480x16(bit colour) required 614400bytes of memory - a 1mb card. 1920x1200x32 would require 9216000bytes, or a 9mb card. This is the "frame buffer" - something writes to that buffer, and something else (a DAC) converts it to video. Some video cards had (have?) multiple frame buffers to allow for quickly switching, well,

Re:Ah Nostalgia...

[Nataku564]

You can do that with an XBOX too, just requires a bit more effort to get linux on it. For the price, its a pretty cheap fileserver.

And when I clicked on the this page it said

[roman_mir]

nothing for you to see here, move along.

Mmmmmm, what video do I download?

[hellstorm]

I think I will cancel de blender video download, Doom III is WAY more important ;)

In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[stuph]

Here's some in-game screenshots from a guy who managed to get his hands on it already.

Doom3 Pix [mac.com]

Re:In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[Alien54]

a four digit hit counter. how amusing

Re:In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[jafiwam]

Not from in game they are not.

Aside from the pictures of the box and so on, those are the exact same screenshots that have been going around the net for a week.

It might have a box, but I don't think he took those screenies.

Re:In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[88NoSoup4U88]

I have never seen the front GUI as shown in http://homepage.mac.com/ablack6596/.Pictures/Doom/ IMGA0764.jpg though ; Looks as id-simple as ever ; I hope they focused some more on the UI design this time around.

Re:In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[Jeff DeMaagd]

I thought the Mac version of D3 wasn't going to be available, so why is the video on an Apple format, and some pictures hosted on a "mac" site? Some people complain about Quicktime not working so well on PCs. I remember people complaining about the inability to "full screen" too.

Re:In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[skinfitz]

Hosted on .mac too - nice hint of optimism there.

Bless.

Re:In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[x0n]

Here are some genuine screenshots [spectracide.us].

- Oisin

Re:In-game screenshots from a lucky SOB

[marsu_k]

Genuine, as in same as the parent?

No,

[warrax_666]

to see the headlines, you silly person! :)

Obviously

[Alien54]

we have slashdotted the original movie server, but the bit torrent is working fine ... estimated time to download is 5 h 39 m and some odd seconds

Torrents, the answer to the 404 Not Found dilemma!

[Basehart]

I'm using Torrents to grab this trailer and I'm getting it at 76 KiB/s on my box standard cable connection here at home, a big improvement on the 404 Not Found I usually expect to see when more than 200 or so users want to see the same thing at once and the server melts.

The press makes out that Torrents is all about getting "free" software and porn. Maybe they should look at it from a different angle.

Re:Torrents, the answer to the 404 Not Found dilem

[nonmaskable]

After a few moments, my speed went to ~110 kB/s. Two minutes to go...

Re:Torrents, the answer to the 404 Not Found dilem

[nuxx]

I was kicking out 500KB/sec after my download finished from a colocated webserver. I let that run for ~15 minutes to give some back to the community, but then dropped, in order to save on bandwidth charges.

I don't think getting this via the .torrent will be a problem for anyone.

Fast, and Getting Faster

[FsG]

As this thing gets hammered, it seems to be speeding up vastly. I downloaded at an average of 250 kB/s, and this thing has well over 2000 seeds. Simply amazing.

Re:Torrents, the answer to the 404 Not Found dilem

[bconway]

I'm getting steady 350 KB/s from the direct download.

Re:Torrents, the answer to the 404 Not Found dilem

[_KiTA_]

I've NEVER seen a mainstream, or even fringe, publication mention Bittorrent.

Actually, take that back. Reutgers Online, trying to do what CNN did to Napster, did a huge article where they linked to suprnova about 5 times talking about free movies and other downloads. THAT mentioned Bittorrent, but only in passing.

But yeah, haven't heard much about BT in the mainstream media at all.

Public service message

[DragonHawk]

To people new to BitTorrent: Leave the BitTorrent program running after your download completes. That lets other people grab fragments of the file from your computer, using your outgoing bandwidth (which is likely mostly idle anyway). I downloaded the file in a couple of minutes, but my cable modem is still pumping out 30 kilobyte/sec to other BT peers.

(If someone here is actually using your outgoing bandwidth for other things, consider yourself mentioned, and spare the Slashdot reply. :) )

Need a .torrent for the .torrent!

[YetAnotherName]

9 comments, and the site's already bogging down hard ... heck, we need a BitTorrent source just for the dang BitTorrent source for the movie!

.torrent mirror.

[Anonymous Coward]

Shouldn't be necessary, but here's a mirror of the torrent [gazonk.org] just in case.

FileShack account

[Jugalator]

User name: bugmenot
Password: passbyabm

It may be unethical, but so is spam.

Re:FileShack account

[KozmoStevnNaut]

I never get any spam on the mail address I registered for fileshack with.

And you cannot download more than one file simultanously when logged into a free account at fileshack. So sharing an account like that is pretty dumb.

Re:FileShack account

[NDPTAL85]

Thanks but its not doing me a lot of good. The downloads keep cutting out.

Off Toppic: Slashdot effect

[toetagger1]

Is Bittorrent the only thing that goes FASTER as it gets slashdotted, or are there other examples of this?

Re:Off Toppic: Slashdot effect

[Anonymous Coward]

No, bandwidth bills go up faster when servers are Slashdotted, too.

Re:Off Toppic: Slashdot effect

[krray]

I beg to differ. My torrent has gone to 0B/s with ALL of the connections dying off. It's not my Internet connection -- check it to various other sources (including VoIP ... and I have dialtone :).

The torrent itself has been officially /.'d as far as I can.

Point of failure: tracker

[gad_zuki!]

Actually, the tracker can get bogged down too. BT isn't completely decentralized.

So if the tracker crashes or just can't handle the traffic there goes the torrent for the most part.

Re:Off Toppic: Slashdot effect

[re-Verse]

You forgot sysadmin stress levels. Oh yeah, and server temperatures.

BitTorrent link

[Groove Holmes]

http://www.filerush.com/torrents/d3pcdownloadfinal .mov.torrent [filerush.com] Just in case the server melts. Which it almost certainly will.

alternate mirrors at 3dgamers

[Avoid_F8]

The Florida mirror seems quite fast on this page: http://www.3dgamers.com/dl/games/doom3/d3pcdownloa dfinal.zip.html [3dgamers.com]

Mirror of the torrent

[croFrog]

Mirror of the torrent

http://www.toad.net/~cshafer/d3pcdownloadfinal.m ov .torrent

I somehow get the feeling

[88NoSoup4U88]

that the Slashdot editors really really like Doom 3 :)
This is , what, the 5th Doom 3 post within a few days ?

Ahwell, since i dig id's work, and am looking forward to Doom 3, i guess it won't hurt ; Just very surprised to see it FP-ed all the time.

Re:I somehow get the feeling

[JaredOfEuropa]

i dig id's work, and am looking forward to Doom 3

Hmm... more eye-candy. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to troll, and ID's stuff is usually very good eyecandy, but it'd be nice if they would come up with a good game to match their brilliant graphics engines. It's games like Half-life and Unreal that tried to add something new to 1st person shooters. IDs crop of games is really more of the the same 'ol, despite the stunning graphics.

Re:I somehow get the feeling

[88NoSoup4U88]

I didn't say i digged id' work for their extensive stories and great new gameplay ; But their engines have surely been (imo) the leading engines for the years FPS's been around : Both in ease of use (from a mod-developing view) ; as for the engines being able to look better(and be improved) in the same cycle. (eg. Q3 -> RTCW)

Hell, i still fire up Quake 1 once a week ; Don't really care too much about the storyline in there ;)

Btw, only Unreal 1 added something new ; as had quake 1 done a few years earli

all-time download speed record...

[British]

was 374kb/sec with bittorrent. Maybe I was just lucky. It was for the Cameron Diaz bondage video. Never anywhere else have I got a download speed that fast.

Re:all-time download speed record...

[marsu_k]

It was for the Cameron Diaz bondage video.

So it was spanking fast, right?

An upgrade worthy game....

[idfrsr]

It looks like I will finally have an excuse to upgrade. With Half-life 2 and Doom 3, looking to be a good year for PC gaming....

Video File Formats

[pipingguy]

Where's the MPEG version? I refuse to use Apple's nagware.

Re:Video File Formats

[veddermatic]

If you had quicktime pro, you could convert it to MPEG.

Re:Video File Formats

[aderusha]

don't forget to grab quicktime alternative while you're at it: http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm

media player classic w/ real alternative and quicktime alternative will pretty much handle anything you throw at it. if you want all the other codecs in one handy bundle, check out the defilerpak: http://hellninjacommando.com/defilerpak/

Re:Video File Formats

[pipingguy]

Can't Irfanview do this?

the Doom3 hardware requirements...

[Daniel Ellard]

... are nothing compared to the hardware requirements for hosting Doom3 downloads...

Sigh. The headline for this articles should read something like "There's a cool file available and the URL was posted on slashdot. Mark your calendar for next week, when the traffic dies down and you can actually download it."

http and ftp mirror

[sebounet666]

via http [s6n.com]
via ftp [s6n.com]

the server should be fast enough

Re:http and ftp mirror

[anttik]

the server should be fast enough

Famous last words.

Re:http and ftp mirror

[TubeSteak]

~370KB/sec (via http)

sounds like the fat lady hasn't started singing yet.

Re:http and ftp mirror

[harmonica]

Thanks a lot. Although I guess the 2 MB/s I got come from the fact that someone using the same proxy server downloaded it before me. ;-)

Re:http and ftp mirror

[MikeBabcock]

Why don't you just start a BitTorrent download on that server and leave it running? That way you can help out all the BitTorrent users automatically.

Apt closing words

[beeglebug]

"Anticipation, after all... is everything"

But seriously, I am impressed with how cinematic the game looks. I'm hoping the opening sequence will be playable, like the Halflife pre-event stuff, it looks like a real nice tension builder the action kicks off.

Lip sync

[sahonen]

Am I the only person who thought the lip-sync sucked?

Re:Lip sync

[foidulus]

Don't most games lipsyncs suck though? I don't play that many games, but I have yet to see a gaming lip sync that actually worked well. FF X sucked, WC 3 sucked, it seems Doom 3 isn't going to be great either.

Re:Lip sync

[irokitt]

The problem is that it is impossible to get Shrek or Toy Story style sync with modern PC/Macintosh/XBOX hardware. There are hundreds of facial muscles that have to be manipulated perfectly. And the human brain is specifically trained. from infancy, to train eyes onto human faces and pick up subtle body language from it. So it is *really* hard to fool a human being into believing an animated face is real.

With that in mind, DOOM 3 and Half Life 2 have excellent synching, with Half Life 2's appearing to be su

Some frame rate lags in the demo

[rbanzai]

It appears that even in the official demo which was probably done on a very high end machine there are some moments when the frame rate drops into the toilet. It's nice to show off all the eye candy but the last thing I would want in my demo is even a few seconds of crappy framerate. Just seems kinda odd to release it like that.

Re:

[account_deleted]

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Easter Egg in the teaser trailer!

[antdude]

Also, there is an Easter Egg [shacknews.com] in the trailer if you remember the original DOOM series.

Maybe not so impressive, after all

[TintinX]

So I've just BT'ed the movie and - well - quite honestly, from this new (and, I admit) short sneak preview, I am underimpressed.
Of course I realised that Doom3 was gonna be Old Skool stlyee, but until I saw this clip of prolongued in-game footage, I didn't realise just how 'run backwards through tight corridors shooting at things' is was likely to be.
Answer (given this trailer) is: a huge, big amount of very lots.
Call me a traitor but I'm much more looking forward to HL2 with it's human militia, Eastern European country setting and all-round greater immersion.
I'll give D3 a warez bash and purchase it if I'm still playing after Day 3 (really, I will), but I have a feeling it may be rather short-lived on my hard disk (not to mention the fact that I'm gonna have to endure it on my laptop (pretty sexy, but still...) as I'm away on business for the first half of next week).
Oh timing - you cruel, cruel fate (possibly).

Multiplayer disappointment

[ogewo]

The other aspect of DoomIII that disappoints is multiplayer. Half-Life 2 is pretty much guaranteed to be first-rate, whereas DoomIII will be lucky to be decent, in the long-run at least. Thats what makes it hard to buy this. Without great multiplayer you can only play a game for so long.

Re:Maybe not so impressive, after all

[Nogami_Saeko]

I feel more or less the same way - ID games have always been great technology demos, but at least for a single-player experience, generally havn't been more than "shoot everything that moves" type games (run into dark room, wonder where the trigger is that will open all the hidden doors so the baddies can charge out at you).

That said, some of my fondest memories were of playing multiplayer original Doom and Quake (original CTF).

Don't get me wrong, I'll buy doom3 next week because I always like a new toy,

Re:Maybe not so impressive, after all

[Grell]

Eh maybe it's just me, but if I had a 3 meter tall inhuman thing spitting glowing globes of plasma at me I just don't see *not* backing up and unloading on the thing.

Of course your point about the style is valid, and everyone likes a different kind of game. (but can you see id going tactical? ... me neither ... /brain hurting/)

I just don't see how you could realistically sneak up on your average denizen of Hell & take it down a la' Hitman for example.

Also it's not like you could hold imps hostage ag

Same here

[Rascasse]

[Comic Book Guy]Biggest Let Down EVER[/Comic Book Guy]

The graphics don't look as great as those screenshots we saw a year ago. The game play hasn't changed that much. So I can shoot through that shelf. Can I push it over to help stall the bad guys while I run backwards? Can I spill the contents of those exploding barrels so that the bad guys might slip and fall? Doesn't seem that way from the video. The characters' lips still aren't in sync with the words they're speaking.

I'm not spending several hundred bucks to upgrade my computer so I can play this game. I'll wait until something more immersive comes down the pipe.

Re:Maybe not so impressive, after all

[tabby]

Well after the last year or so of WorldWar2 & current world crisis team shooters (everything from Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Battlefield, America's Army, Joint Ops and back again) I'm quite looking forward to a scary bloodbath with demons. As far as upgrading to play, I'll wait a few months until semester is over & play the XBox version.

Massive battles?

[Killswitch1968]

What I really liked about the original doom was entering rooms that had ~30 monsters. Few games are like that these days, with the exception of Serious Sam (which was hella fun, but had the weakest storyline I've ever seen).
The trailer didn't show any of these huge scenes, but more 1 on 1 battles. Well, here's hoping.

Re:Massive battles?

[foidulus]

Carmak said that there will be a lot less monsters and ammo this time around, but hey, that is what mods/map editors were made for!
I'm sure within a week someone will recreate(as close as posible of course) the original doom maps in doom 3....now what that will do to your video card is another story.

Video Game trailers formulaic ape of Hollywood

[Grabble]

Fuckin' Jesus. Why does nearly every single video game "trailer" try to copy the "cool kids" in Hollywood?!

Ugh. The Doom trailer does the cliche "crescendo, pause, explode" thing THREE TIMES, one of which is the hackneyed "Final Scare" thing.

I guess I'm just pissy at the never-ending globule of mainstreamism infecting everything.

In my pants.

Re:Video Game trailers formulaic ape of Hollywood

[Grabble]

Trailer hating resources...

http://efilmcritic.com/feature.php?feature=1138 [efilmcritic.com]

http://www.fwfr.com/fourum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true& TOPIC_ID=468 [fwfr.com]

Human psychology

[DragonHawk]

"Why does nearly every single video game "trailer" try to copy the "cool kids" in Hollywood?!"

Because pretty much all of their customers are human, and thus will react the same way to that carefully constructed stimuli. Video directors use those techniques because they *work*. They trigger the same reactions in most humans, by working on the wetware at a very old and fundamental level. They thus attract interest and get the blood pumping, making people want to see the movie/play the game/buy the product

Random thoughts after watching the trailer.

[RogueyWon]

Just watched the trailer. The lighting effects are excellent... best I've seen in a game so far. Monsters also look superb, in terms of both design and animation. Enviroment in general is pretty spiffy... I like the writing on the walls in blood.

On the down-side, I think the weapon effects, particularly the plasma gun, really do look quite lame. Certainly no better than what we've already seen in UT2k4, if not slightly worse.

Also, the trailer gives me some cause to worry about the gameplay. As I understand it, the idea was that this would be a game that would play heavily on the "fear" aspect, and I find constant combat to be a huge fear-negating factor. I'll be upset if the gameplay does turn out to be "just another fps". Of course, it's perfectly possible that they thought they needed to show constant combat in the trailer and that this isn't representative of the full game.

Doom 3 minimum hardware requirements:

[rinkjustice]

A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500.
384 megabytes of memory.
Two gigabytes of hard drive space.
An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better.

Just thought I'd clear that up for anyone not in-the-know.

Demo?

[Anonymous Coward]

What I want to know is, when can I get a demo?

I don't want to buy the damned game until I know if my machine is good enough to run it acceptably or not.

Re:Non QT format?

[JPriest]

Well, you can download Quicktime Alternative [free-codecs.com] if you don't want to install quicktime. See also Real Alternitave [free-codecs.com]

A safe, easy, spyware free quicktime

[poohsuntzu]

For Windows users, just install the Kazaa Lite ++ Codec Pack. It's legal (unlike it's p2p software) and includes not only the latest DivX codecs, but quicktime/realplayer Dll's that operate without the quicktime/realplayer software. This means quicktime/realplayer playability and browser streaming without the spyware. They are known as quicktime/realplayer lite.

Get the 'mega codec pack' here:
http://g5.edskes.com/klmcodec103.exe [edskes.com]

For linux users, of course head here and snag:
http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/e ssential-20040704.tar.bz2 [mplayerhq.hu]

Which is the mplayer release of an essential codec pack containing divx, quicktime, realplayer, etc. Those should be extracted (without the sub director in the tar) to /usr/lib/win32

Re:Non QT format?

[Trashman]

Is there an AVI/DivX/anything else version of this available for those of us without QuickTime?

I'm watching this w/ Totem running on Debian Unstable. No quicktime/crosover office/mplayer/wine/etc needed here.

Re:Quicktime alternative please

[Basehart]

Jeezus Rob, don't you have a .rm version of this online yet??

Re:You know it's time to get a new computer...

[shmokey]

It's kinda strange how you are having problems playing this. On my iMac w/ 450Mhz G3 and 512 Megs o' RAM it plays fine. Im sure your PC is better than that.

Re:After watching this...

[thrash242]

Haven't you seen the trailer with the BFG (and plasma rifle)? You're so, like, July! They also said in that trailer (forget which one now) that all the weapons from the original will be back.

BTW, it most likely won't be in stores on the 3rd, that's when it ships to stores. I know that EB isn't getting it until the 4th. You might want to call your friendly local game retailer to check. Don't want to have to make two trips to the store. :)

Re:I am scared...

[thrash242]

Yes, the only way to play this game (along with any game that's supposed to be scary) is in the dark, alone, with the sound cranked up. My last Doom3 upgrade, some 5.1 surround speakers is on the way now. I got them just because of the recommendation of a beta tester (I think) that said it's really worth it for the atmosphere.

But I have the feeling this game will be very scary. Parts of the trailer remind me of Silent Hill and Eternal Darkness (which is very odd for an id game), and those games are damn

Re:I am scared...

[Artifakt]

Actually, I have some real concerns about just how scary it looks. The trailers so far all make me think of those scenes in a horror film where either a cat is about to jump out at you, or something that isn't a cat is, and I don't think ID is going to play the "Whew! just a cat" card. I jumped a few times playing Quake 1 alone in a dark room at night (with headphones - I swear there's nothing like the noise of a zombie rising from the water 4 feet _behind_ you, that you thought you had already cleared..

Re:Archvile is back!

[thrash242]

Uhm, Carmack said it was in Doom3. All the weapons from Doom, in fact.

Re:Archvile is back!

[KozmoStevnNaut]

No, that was Tim Willits who said that, and he said that all the weapons from the original Doom, not Doom 2, were in the game.