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Gates Nose-Dives at CES

michael posted about 10 years ago | from the look-out-below dept.

Microsoft 1451

Lots of submissions this morning about Bill Gates' performance at the Las Vegas Consumer Electronics Show. His Media Center PC presentation crashed. (The presentation is online.) He also gave an interview to CNET, where he described anyone who doesn't support ever-increasing intellectual property laws as "communists". Boingboing has some commentary on that interview as well.

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274514)

first post!

Re:fp (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274615)

Ahahahahahahaha!!!! This is the most funniest thing I ever heard him say! Communists indeed... Oh Bill... you so craaaazy!

Re:fp (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274628)

Ay tovarish... pass me that Windows XP key!

Re:fp (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274672)

Can anyone provide a http link of the wmv for those that don't want to spend all morning trying to jump through the mms:// hoop?

Where is that video (3, Informative)

suso (153703) | about 10 years ago | (#11274521)

someone provide a link to the video where Windows 98 crashed on Gates and former MS employee at Comdex in Chicago circa 1998.

Re:Where is that video (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274556)

Re:Where is that video (2, Informative)

illusion_2K (187951) | about 10 years ago | (#11274650)

Yeah, from 1998.

Windows 98 went from 'funny' to 'sad' years ago.

I have it (1)

hppacito (803254) | about 10 years ago | (#11274573)

its kinda funny, the other guy does a good job removing the over-screen proyector (or whatever it is), while trie to find where to hide himself. He probaly is also trying to remember if he has got morining's newspaper to start looking for a new job... :-)

Time of crash (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274702)

For those interested, the crash for this year's CES happens at about 26 minutes in.

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274522)


I spy a new meme (5, Funny)

beeglebug (767468) | about 10 years ago | (#11274523)

Fly the flag with pride comrades!
boingboing.net/images/copyleftcommie.gif [boingboing.net]

Re:I spy a new meme (3, Funny)

Ford Prefect (8777) | about 10 years ago | (#11274543)

In Soviet, erm...

I'm sure there's a joke here somewhere, but I can't for the life of me remember what it is. ;-)

Re:I spy a new meme (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274592)

I find it offensive to associate the GPL with a form of government that's responsible for killing many millions of people.

Re:I spy a new meme (5, Insightful)

finkployd (12902) | about 10 years ago | (#11274633)

I find it offensive to associate the GPL with a form of government that's responsible for killing many millions of people.

Are you aware of a major form of government that is NOT responsible for killing millions of people?


Anarchist, dammit (4, Funny)

Lifewish (724999) | about 10 years ago | (#11274689)

I can't think of a single anarchist government that's killed millions of people.

Re:I spy a new meme (3, Insightful)

sisukapalli1 (471175) | about 10 years ago | (#11274675)

I find it offensive to associate the GPL with a form of government that's responsible for killing many millions of people.

Come on... People have killed more in the name of religion, but that doesn't make the concept of religion a bad thing (or, to give an example, a cross is a perfectly fine symbol). The sad thing about communism was that in some countries it delved into dictatorships and so on. Some countries have a more palatable socialistic governments that are doing pretty fine.

It is sad though that Bill Gates thinks that by associating GPL with an "american taboo word of the 20th century," he can accomplish something. Now, he seems to be taking the role of Steve Ballmer. May be time to see Bill Gates jumping up and down screaming "Developers... Developers... Communists... Develpers..".


Re:I spy a new meme (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274723)

No, people have not killed more than 20 million people (Soviet Union's death toll alone) in the name of religion, you fucktard.

Re:I spy a new meme (4, Insightful)

eno2001 (527078) | about 10 years ago | (#11274711)

To paraphrase the NRA member logic: Governments don't kill people, people kill people. The communist form of government had little to do with killing people. It ultimately fell victim to a human trait called greed. The people in power in the former soviet states felt that they were more equal than others. If you ask me, I will tell you that our capitalist republic is failing in the same exact way. The only difference is that with capitalism, the PR machine has better beads and trinkets. Now before anyone jumps on me to tell me that capitalism is an economic model and communism is a political model, don't forget that in communism, the economic model is defined by the political model. Here in the U.S. the economic model is also defined by the political model, but the balance is different. Here the economic model has more power than the political model. And those people who would have been high ranking politicos in the U.S.S.R. are instead CEOs in our corporations. Very effective way of attempting to take over the world without letting things like politics and ethics get in the way.

Re:I spy a new meme (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274667)

Actually, isn't a government granted monopoly (copyright) and "incentives" more communist than capitalist? Do we really need to pour millions of dollars into the pockets of the recording industry and artists? I mean, I accept the premise that entertainment is worth money, but when one organization controls the distribution channels, content, and advertisement, where's the competition?

Eh? (4, Funny)

hey! (33014) | about 10 years ago | (#11274710)

Shows you what you know. Flags are for fat old aparachnik fogies. All the cool revolutionaries know you wave bloody shirts.

To the barricades!

Re:I spy a new meme (5, Funny)

Benanov (583592) | about 10 years ago | (#11274726)

That should be a patent-unencumbered PNG! Where is your sense of decency, comrade? :)

Obligatory Simpson's Quote... (0)

TheShadowHawk (789754) | about 10 years ago | (#11274526)


Re:Obligatory Simpson's Quote... (0)

Herby Werby (645641) | about 10 years ago | (#11274578)

If it's wrong to sit down and start coding, I don't want to be right.

McCarthyism for the shareholders (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274529)

Now there's a desperate man for ya. He's sweating the shareholders' realizing MSFT is not the great holding they thought it was.

Re:McCarthyism for the shareholders (1)

DaHat (247651) | about 10 years ago | (#11274640)

I am still quite content with my MSFT holdings... and the $3/share dividend in December sure made me even more content.

Lesson for Gates (5, Funny)

bitswapper (805265) | about 10 years ago | (#11274530)

Never show up at an event hosted by a comedian.
Using Windows.

Re:Lesson for Gates (1)

uradu (10768) | about 10 years ago | (#11274652)

3. Tape presentations ahead of time

crashes everywhere (2, Funny)

cwebb1977 (650175) | about 10 years ago | (#11274531)

Don't watch the presentation, it makes your PC crash, too ;)

You see, this just proves it. (5, Funny)

millennial (830897) | about 10 years ago | (#11274537)

I always knew Gates was a robot. Now they installed SP2 on him, and LOOK WHAT HAPPENS! Increased security, my foot!

reminds me of some quote (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274540)

"That's why we don't release Windows 95 yet"
oh wait...

That's pretty funny... (5, Insightful)

Sottilde (836088) | about 10 years ago | (#11274541)

I wish they'd stop developing new, useless BS out at Microsoft and get to work on bug fixes.

Re:That's pretty funny... (5, Insightful)

Asprin (545477) | about 10 years ago | (#11274638)

Agreed - the last paragraph of that sfgate piece really sez it all:

"While Microsoft's goal is to turn the PC into a superhub that does everything -- plays music, works as a cell phone, stores your photos -- they're running up against the fact that most people buy discreet components that do particular things."

Personally, I kinda like having seams of one sort or another. They are boundries around systems that restrict their awareness and let me take control of them again when I need to.

What's wrong with communism? (5, Insightful)

G-Licious! (822746) | about 10 years ago | (#11274542)

I'm going to accuse them of being modern day capitalists.
Sounds just as bad to me.

I see your point but... (4, Insightful)

Lifewish (724999) | about 10 years ago | (#11274630)

a) Calling free culture advocates commies shows a... slight misunderstanding of the two ideologies. At its best, Communism was never particularly concerned with the individual (possibly why it is so successful in the Confucian environment of China).

b) Arguing that "Communist" is not a pejorative is likely to go down like a lead balloon in much of America. The McCarthy witchhunts were ludicrous but they happened for a reason. Communists *were* the enemy - defending them carries the same overtones as defending Naziism to the French.

Re:What's wrong with communism? (2, Informative)

Dachannien (617929) | about 10 years ago | (#11274690)

Obviously, Gates intends to make the allusion that these people are big-C Communists (whose motivation is to keep themselves in power through suppression of the masses), rather than little-c communists (whose motivation is to serve the people through suppression of those currently in power). He's playing off the ignorant knee-jerk reaction of most Americans to equate the word
"Communism" with "Evil" (Stalin did, after all, kill millions of his own people).

Re:What's wrong with communism? (5, Insightful)

mindaktiviti (630001) | about 10 years ago | (#11274720)

I'm not going to defend capitalism (granted I think it's much better than communism), but communism itself is pretty bad.

I myself have fairly left-wing views (I'm from Canada and completely agree with universal healthcare, etc), but communism doesn't seem to take one thing into consideration: Humans are greedy, and this includes the ones controlling the government of a communist country. Much like the very purpose of an incorporation (Check out this movie [thecorporation.tv] ), there's an underlyting wrongness about communism that doesn't have enough checks and balances (at least not in my country of origin).

Anyway, Bill should grow up and know better than to call people commies. It's unprofessional.

Propoganda (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274544)

Say what you want about Microsoft, but if you watched Gates at Berkley or most of his appearances he's pretty level headed. Using one comment against him his just propoganda.

Re:Propoganda (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274617)

Sometimes, all it takes is one comment. If Bush comes out on public television and makes one strong line of pure and clear racial charged comment against minority groups. Do you think everyone will say, well, using one comment against him is just propaganda?


Re:Propoganda (4, Insightful)

burbankmarc (838977) | about 10 years ago | (#11274635)

Propoganda? In the late 70's/early 80's he wrote a letter to Stallman stating that he should be banned from all computer events because he supports free software...

Now to me, this doesn't sound like propoganda, but rather, who he actually is.

Is this a metaphor? (5, Funny)

PDXNerd (654900) | about 10 years ago | (#11274553)

It sounds like Bill Gates may be infested with SpyWare, a typical memetic programming that took place in the 1950's in which everyone who was not a right-wing-christian-gun-loving-American was a communist. It sounds like it's causing his PR ability to crash. Should we help him out and format him and put linux on him? (Wait.. Put linux on him, linux is Tux, the mental image that is coming to mind is... DISTURBING!!!! ACK REBOOT REBOOT!)

Bzzt (4, Insightful)

The Cisco Kid (31490) | about 10 years ago | (#11274557)

But while promoting what he calls the "digital lifestyle," Gates showed how vulnerable all consumers -- even the world's richest man -- are to hardware and software bugs.

It would *REALLY* be nice to see someone in the media finally get this right.

SB: ... showed how vulnerable all *WINDOWS USERS* - even the founder and ex-CEO of the very company that makes Windows -- are to ... (the fact that Windows is a buggy piece of shit)

Re:Bzzt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274616)

and yet, people still use it becaues its better than linux

Re:Bzzt (0, Offtopic)

millennial (830897) | about 10 years ago | (#11274647)

Yes, just as beta is better than VHS!

Re:Bzzt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274623)

yup, i agree, windoze will be just as vulnerable and buggy on a rich man's computer as a poor man's computer...

Re:Bzzt (2, Insightful)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | about 10 years ago | (#11274644)

Keep in mind there is a danger in letting people assume that non-Windows systems are totally secure and 100% bug-free.

Re:Bzzt (1)

OwlWhacker (758974) | about 10 years ago | (#11274705)

This is true.

But there's also a danger in letting people assume that they have no choice, and that all operating systems have the same level of security and stability.

Sweet Jebus! (2, Funny)

Ligur (453963) | about 10 years ago | (#11274558)

Head for the hills! The Commies are everywhere!

Re:Sweet Jebus! (1)

bananasfalklands (826472) | about 10 years ago | (#11274740)

I will be looking forward to seeing you in the Guantanamo Bay hotel comrade - I have to ring up the american embassy and book it now.

Out of touch.... (4, Insightful)

jsimon12 (207119) | about 10 years ago | (#11274559)

Is it me or does Gates seem to be very out of touch with what is going on in the real world and mostly seems to be getting his current information from his "Human Search Engines". Not to mention the fact he is constantly doing little more then plugging Micro$oft products.

Just remember: If you don't buy from Micro$oft you are a Communist!

Re:Out of touch.... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274634)

Other than one fake quote attributed to him and getting hit in the face with a pie, can anyone actually remember anything he has done or said? Ever?

also... (5, Funny)

millennial (830897) | about 10 years ago | (#11274561)

When I read that he nose-dived, I was hoping for a video of him tripping and flying off a stage or something. I am sorely disappointed!

Obligatory Dr. Strangelove Quote (5, Funny)

nudnikmeow (846945) | about 10 years ago | (#11274562)

Gen. Jack D. Ripper: I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

I lived in Utah for ten years (3, Interesting)

wiredog (43288) | about 10 years ago | (#11274728)

and was surprised, at first, to find that many people there actually believed that.

From the article (0)

sczimme (603413) | about 10 years ago | (#11274563)

Gates, who was sitting next to O'Brien on a set staged to look like NBC's Late Night set, smiled dryly and continued with his discussion.

"Smiled dryly"?? I can see making a dry remark, but... Or is this meant to indicate that Mr. Gates was not drooling and/or foaming at the mouth? I'm not bashing Bill, btw - just assessing the article author's acumen. (Sorry to be a pain in the assonance.)

As an aside, when I read the headline I though Bill had done a faceplant on the stage or had been caught lip-synching or something. It turns out he was just a little embarrassed because his whizzy new products crashed twice in front of thousands of people.

/Oh - that's still rather bad.

How Bill can succeed... (3, Insightful)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | about 10 years ago | (#11274564)

Use his influence with the federal government to tie the open source effort with terrorism. Terrorism is the new communism. Cloak anything you don't like in terrorism and it gets done. Couple that with this administration's ability to be bought off by corporate interests and he can get what he wants. OK, mod me down now.......

Re:How Bill can succeed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274631)

OK, mod me down now.......

Don't worry, you made an anti-Bush statement. You'll be OK.

Re:How Bill can succeed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274643)

Yup, pretty much spot on what they could do, now I'm hoping they won't but since we're an already paranoid group let's just keep an eye open eh?

Re:How Bill can succeed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274708)

And here's a handy way [geek.com] to start up the talking points.

Can't you just see El Presidente saying "Allowing possible terrorists the ability to contribute to software used here in the United States is a serious threat to national security."

Search. (5, Insightful)

saintlupus (227599) | about 10 years ago | (#11274565)

From the interview, on the topic of search engines:

Oh, sure, everybody is working on those things, but just take the idea of finding your local pizza place and doing that right; search doesn't do that well today.

Sounds like someone needs to clue Bill in to using Sherlock under OS X -- that's exactly what I used it for yesterday.


Re:Search. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274734)

Or you can simply use the Yellow Pages(tm). But since that doesn't involve a computer it can't be mentioned.

"Nose-Dives" (0, Redundant)

PhilippeT (697931) | about 10 years ago | (#11274567)

Awww the title made me think he actually toke a real dive and for once felt what it was like for the rest of us on earth.

O well it's still funny that Bill still thinks of doing live tech demos even after their own presentation of windows crashed I thought they would be smart enough and stick with PowerPoint.

Wait did I just think Microsoft would be smart about something... scary.

Anything like this (5, Funny)

JohnHegarty (453016) | about 10 years ago | (#11274569)

Worlds largest blue screen of death here [infoworld.com]

So whats Gates? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274574)

So does this make Gates a fascist capitalist pig?

Welcome to the revolution! (5, Insightful)

thewiz (24994) | about 10 years ago | (#11274590)

I, for one, welcome our new copyleft communist masters (and logo).

Seriously, Bill Gate and Co. continue to try and paint anyone who doesn't agree with their stance on IP as un-American. Who died and made him J. Edgar Hoover, Jr.?

America was NOT founded on the principles of IP but on freedom of choice (religious and otherwise) and the idea that everyone is supposed to contribute to the public good. The recent push to IP, patent, and copyright every little "innovation" (think one-click)is what is hurting our ability to produce something new and better without having to wade through a morass of legalities.

I will continue to support copyleft, OSS, and any other program that contributes to the dissemination of knowledge and ideas.

Re:Welcome to the revolution! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274684)

"America was NOT founded on the principles of IP but on freedom of choice (religious and otherwise) and the idea that everyone is supposed to contribute to the public good. "


Rather, America was founded on the idea that each person could retain control over what they had created/built/earned/believed without someone "more deserving" taking that control away from them.

People chose to contribute to the common effort because they believed in it, not because they had to.

Unusual (2, Interesting)

papasui (567265) | about 10 years ago | (#11274593)

I find it pretty unusual that both cases caused the machine to stop responding completely. That hasn't happened to me since Windows 98/Me. 2000 and XP have generally been pretty stable theirselves. Individual programs still crash, but they don't usually take the system down with them. I wonder if there was some bad ram or other hardware failure as part of the cause. Still funny and I'm sure embarrassing all the same. :)

Re:Unusual (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | about 10 years ago | (#11274715)

It's quite easy to take 2000 and XP down... the system doesn't even have to crash, just go into a loop allocating memory or something - it's still power-button time (since the 3-finger salute doesn't work in those situations).

Bluescreening is harder, but there are more fun things like nuking lsass by passing wrong parameters to the security APIs (I do this deliberately sometimes, 'cos I'm strange like that...)

Minute 7 (4, Informative)

kngthdn (820601) | about 10 years ago | (#11274595)

If the video still works, Conan O'Brian does some hilarious stand-up badmouthing Gates at minute 7. Skip the garbage before that.

Your parents told you... (5, Insightful)

Transcendent (204992) | about 10 years ago | (#11274598)

he described anyone who doesn't support ever-increasing intellectual property laws as "communists".

But... doesn't sharing mean caring? At least that's what my parents always said.

In all seriousness, there's nothing wrong with a communial society, it's just really really hard to pull off because of human nature.

Re:Your parents told you... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Custard (587661) | about 10 years ago | (#11274707)

Communal societies work if they're voluntary. But you can't force someone to participate. It's the difference bewteen someone giving something away and someone forcefully taking something away.

And the lesson is ... (2, Interesting)

totatis (734475) | about 10 years ago | (#11274602)

So, his media player presentation crashed, and the link to this is ... a .asx.

Kinda ironic don't you think ?

BSOD? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274605)

From the article: But instead of configuring a custom-designed race car, the computer monitor displayed the dreaded "blue screen of death" and warned, "out of system memory."

I haven't seen a BSOD in years...literally. Not since windows 98.

Re:BSOD? (1)

LSD-OBS (183415) | about 10 years ago | (#11274751)

You're either very lucky or no longer regularly using a Microsoft operating system. I get blue screens on my 2000 and XP Pro boxes about once a month each.

Which is around 20x more reliable than my old 98SE workstations, granted.

Dennis Miller called it years ago ... (5, Funny)

Titusdot Groan (468949) | about 10 years ago | (#11274613)

"Bill Gates is a Persian cat and a monocle away from being a villain in a James Bond movie."
-- Dennis Miller

Personally... (1)

garcia (6573) | about 10 years ago | (#11274618)

I'd rather be labelled a "communist" by a glorified software salesman than a "terrorist" by our government or a "fascist" by anyone else.

I'm sorry but I was unaware that "communists" were now the negative buzzword. He should have called them terrorists instead. He'd get a lot more press that way.

You may laugh... (2, Interesting)

east coast (590680) | about 10 years ago | (#11274620)

he described anyone who doesn't support ever-increasing intellectual property laws as "communists".

While this is generally laughed at by the slashdot community we still need to consider that Joe Sixpack pretty much sees it the same way. Not that he minds downloading free music and pr0n but ultimatly he does see it as theft.

And this could really bite at the community in the future. While most people here laugh at Joe Sixpack he's the one who helped Gates build an empire.

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274712)

Joe Sixpack pretty much sees it the same way. Not that he minds downloading free music and pr0n but ultimatly he does see it as theft.

So you're saying that most people believe that only communists steal?

Marketing (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Custard (587661) | about 10 years ago | (#11274642)

I wonder if the fathers of capitalism ever imagined the levels of marketing we would have today. I believe it really skews the whole idea of competition...

It didn't hurt Windows 98 sales after Gates got a blue screen [methodshop.com] during a demo, Ashlee Simpson is still selling albums even though we found out that she really, really, can't sing (SNL [msn.com] + Orange Bowl [msn.com] ), and G. W. Bush got the presidency despite being a below average public speaker.

The american public really doesn't hold public figures to a very high standard anymore.

There are music geeks who hate Ashlee for taking away a spot at a record company that some talented band might have had, political geeks who know every single word GW has said wrong, and normular computer geeks who know the design flaws in Windows.

Still, the public doesn't seem to care, and prefer to be sheep following celebrity shepards rather than thinking humans supporting the most qualified public figures.

You have to be a really dedicated researcher if you want to get beyond the multi-million dollar marketing hype surrounding most products and people these days.

Re:Marketing (1)

hsmith (818216) | about 10 years ago | (#11274678)

I wonder if the fathers of capitalism ever imagined the levels of marketing we would have today. I believe it really skews the whole idea of competition...

Please, America had a LONG time to go before it became capitalist, it was FAR from that at the inception of our country. Only in the past 100 years has it become "capitalist"

Re:Marketing (1)

CashCarSTAR (548853) | about 10 years ago | (#11274747)

It depends on what you mean by capitalist...

The stock market is for the most part, a fairly modern invention. However, instead of opposing capitalist and socialist, I like to compare capitalist and labourist. Do you value wealth or work?

As a moral choice, I value work. America, as a society, values wealth, which is the cause of its moral decay.

Clearly a lie! (1)

RoLi (141856) | about 10 years ago | (#11274651)

Lots of people here and elsewhere have assured me that Windows2000 and later never crashes.

So this story is just a piece of evil propaganda.

Microsoft in a nutshell... (2, Funny)

mogrify (828588) | about 10 years ago | (#11274657)

Although he accepted guffaws from audience members in the theater, the technical hiccups didn't prompt Gates to engage in a hard-hitting analysis of computer reliability and security.

Doesn't that just sum up everything that's wrong with Microsoft?

damn... (1)

traveler007 (821318) | about 10 years ago | (#11274664)

... and I had thought he'd tripped for real and done a face plant on the stage.

Sooo.. only windows crashed on him, heck, that happens every day to (tens of)thousands every day.. that's not even news worthy anymore. People have got used to that... when you use windows anyway..

Obligatory ;) (1)

StarfishOne (756076) | about 10 years ago | (#11274666)

In Sovjet Russia, ever-increasing intellectual property laws are not supported by you!

Hmm (2, Interesting)

MrRuslan (767128) | about 10 years ago | (#11274669)

Throwing words like comunist is very imature and unprofessional on Bills behalf IMHO.

Windows... (1)

nagora (177841) | about 10 years ago | (#11274674)

Because "beta" is for life, not just early releases.

The server's getting.. (0, Redundant)

Sottilde (836088) | about 10 years ago | (#11274679)

Slashdotted. Getting really slow. By the way, the forza motorsport part starts at about 71 minutes.

Trouble starts at 26 minutes 50 seconds (or so) (3, Informative)

Arkahn (14759) | about 10 years ago | (#11274680)

Fast forward to the interesting portion of this riveting presentation.

42 pound Internet ready calculator watch (1)

SeaHunter (838892) | about 10 years ago | (#11274685)

I got mine last week. I just wish it was water proof.

re: Communists (2, Insightful)

bogie (31020) | about 10 years ago | (#11274691)

You know I was ready to call B.S. as I was reading the article because I got to here and read "There are fewer communists in the world today than there were". I thought man, saying that Bill called everyone communists was a bit of stretch but then I read a little further, "There are some new modern-day sort of communists who want to get rid of the incentive for musicians and moviemakers and software makers under various guises."

Yep, he pretty much just said that if you don't support IP then your a Communist. What a douchebag. That statement is going to haunt him for a long time and rightly so. The world's richest man and still as greedy as ever. Again, what a douchebag. Oh btw for the 12 year olds among you who can't think like adults yet, yes you can still be a douchebag and be philanthropic at the same time.

Because we all know Communists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274701)

...demand free and open source code just like they demand a free and open society.

Patents for Microsoft? Please. (1)

huge colin (528073) | about 10 years ago | (#11274704)

Is there any reason that multi-billion-dollar company like Microsoft should be allowed to patent anything? Why does MS need patents? Do they need to get their foot in the door in the software industry? Perhaps they're struggling to survive without exclusive rights to concepts like 'buttons' and 'double-clicking'? MS has almost all of the desktop OS market, for christ sakes.

The purpose of patents is to protect unique, innovative ideas of inventors, not to provide a means for corporations to get legal rights on ubiquitous things that no one had bothered to patent yet.

If we were really communists.... (3, Interesting)

FlimFlamboyant (804293) | about 10 years ago | (#11274717)

We'd be supporting the idea of the government owning all intellectual property.

However, not to defend Mr. Gates (and surely to piss off a lot of the OSS community), but there is some small degree of validity to his statement, though he used the wrong word.

Many people who completely reject the idea of intellectual property (not all) aren't really communists as Mr. Gates would propose, but in fact, radical left-wing anarchists. They despise authority in any form that it comes in; that is why such things as IP and copyrights are hated so much. The idea of God introduces a supreme authority, so they hate him even more.

They wear the "communist" label with pride, not understanding who they really are, or what communism really is and what it has done to nearly every single society that has been foolish enough to try it.

They are the modern day hippy, when it comes right down to it. They stand for and oppose the same things and the same principles.

Bill bet the farm (5, Interesting)

maskatron (7560) | about 10 years ago | (#11274718)

He has to say this sort of thing since he's bet the MS farm on DRM and the like. When you hear people making these kind of references though, you know they are concerned. That tells me the DRM plan isn't going as well as they thought it would.

Obvious ploy (1)

JustNiz (692889) | about 10 years ago | (#11274719)

This is an obvious ploy by Gates to reawaken the seeds planted in the American psyche in the McCarthy-era, when it was used to imply "criminal, treacherous or anti-social behaviour. He's trying to get the average Joe to subconciously associate anyone who doesn't support Gates's greedy power-crazy megalomania with somehow being un-American.

Hey America, Communism is just a political ideal, its not dirty or perverted for someone to be a communist.

I see this as yet more Microsoft dirty tactics that will be so obvious to most modern-thinking people that they will backfire badly.

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Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#11274724)

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I didn't say this but... (1)

LordNokia (776881) | about 10 years ago | (#11274725)

In Korea, Bill Gates is only for Old People

antitrust (1)

Miguel de Icaza (660439) | about 10 years ago | (#11274742)

"when people say Firefox is being downloaded onto people's systems, that's true, but IE is also on those systems... Some percentage of users are going to try Firefox and IE side by side... So no big problem; it's not that people have stopped using IE"

he is gloating that people can't completely uninstall internet exlorer.

So... (1)

Mr. Cancelled (572486) | about 10 years ago | (#11274743)

If not supporting Micro$oft and increasing their stranglehold on development and innovation makes us communists, what does it make those who support Micro$soft's dictatorship?

I think there's a name for those who consolidate power under themselves, and who keep the citizens in place through threats and violence (or in MS's case, through threats and lawsuits). Can you say "Totalitarianism" [wnec.edu] ?

I agree with others sentiments... Gates seems to be as out of the loop on what consumers want out of their PC's, as Bush, who is totally out of the loop as far as how his actions make him and the USA appear to others.

I think ol' Billy Gates needs to get back to his roots and fast! MS's recent blatherings about IE not needing any updates until 2006/2007, as well as their Longhorn/Roadmap fiasco clearly show that they're no longer the leaders they once were. Instead, they're now riding the ever-decreasing wave of profit that their past performance has provided them with. Eventually this wave will die out (it'd last longer if they gave up on their XBox aspirations!), and then we'll see how Micro$oft can handle 21st century computing.

After Tiger comes out, and Apple rolls out their $500 computer (if rumors are true), there'll (hopefully/expectantly) be an ever increasing flow of fed up Windows users migrating to Linux and OSX. Firefox has proven that non-MS software is a good thing to the unwashed masses, and they're now starting to reconsider that Windows investment. Hopefully by the time Longhorn hits the streets, the business world will be waking up to cheaper, more reliable options as well (beyond just using Linux on their servers).

How can we trust Microsoft's software... (1)

allanc (25681) | about 10 years ago | (#11274752)

...when they can't even rig a demo properly?

Seriously, even when they're running through a script and avoiding the bits of code that they aren't 100% on, they still got two crashes. Maybe next time, they should just make a PowerPoint presentation that looks like an interactive Windows desktop and hope nobody notices that they're just mouse-syncing.
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