Microsoft Sticks to 10M Xbox Projection 79
Despite the strong gains of the Wii, and the PS3's sellout, Microsoft is sticking to its claim that it will be the first next-gen console to 10 million units. They're still hoping to reach that goal sometime this year. From the article: "Just how feasible that number is remains open. Microsoft's latest financial report at the end of September revealed that the company had moved 6 million Xbox 360s worldwide. And in his latest analysis, Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter said NPD data that Xbox 360 hardware sales in the U.S. were 2.9 million units, averaging approximately 250,000 units monthly for the last six months. Pachter further predicted that 750,000 Xbox 360 hardware units would be sold in November, and between 1.5 - 2 million units in December, a conservative estimate assuming that PS3 supply levels remained consistent throughout the month leading up to Christmas." That's of course not the case, as PS3 supplies have been low. The article goes on to point out they still may squeak this out; the Blue Dragon bundle pack for the 360 is releasing in Japan this week. Preorders for the system have been selling out, and demand in that market is high for the Xbox 360 for the first time since launch.
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No, it means they'll have to sell 8 million systems to catch up to Microsoft.
Geez. Nice "arithmetic"
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He left out the magic phrase 'per month.' Sony would have to sell ~330,000 units more than Microsoft *per month* for 24 months, just to catch up.
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Oh sure, once the Japanese-RPGs start rolling out the PS3 in 12-18 months, the PS3 should do fine. But in the meantime, Microsoft and Nintendo aren't just going to sit around and do nothing.
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It will not take long for the PS/3 to outsell the xbox360 at that rate!
Note: I don't think 1M ps/3 per month is realistic in the next few years, but they can certainly catch up.
JON
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Personally (going back to my original point) I think that it will be remarkably difficult for the PS3 to become the worldwide leader because they will have to sell about 333,000 units per month more than the XBox 360; and I think it will be impossible for the PS3 to outsell the XBox 360 in North America/Europe because most of thos
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That's of course not the case, as PS3 supplies have been low.
I dunno, having none all the time is pretty damn consistent
Not without a price drop (Score:2)
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While looking for a Wii, I overheard some Best Buy employees saying that they were selling a lot of Xbox360s simply because parents looking for a console for their kids can't get their hands on anything else. I don't know that people are rabid for the 360 but it is pretty good product and it seems a significant group of consumers are simply looking for any next-gen console rather than a specific one.
Personally, I bought a Xbox360 last couple of months and I'm getting a Wii (hopefully this week).
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Add my co-worker to this list. She was talking about getting her kids a new system, during all the PS3 launch frenzy, and then I informed her of the differences and the choices. She was going to get a Wii, but could not find any and has no patience or care to stand in line and fight for one. She also found out her kids own an Xbox, so she's getting them a 360 instead, which I said would be a good choice if they already own the Xbox.
The worst thing Sony could have done is kill their holiday sales by not having enough units. Unfortunately, this happened and Sony's going to get stung by it. Once the holiday is over, that $600 price tag will be for those who really want one. Everyone else will be pinching pennies after feeling like they just spent a lot over the last couple months. Of course, there's always next year! =)
Cheers,
Fozzy
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I own a couple xboxes so I'm allowed to make the joke.
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From what I hear, it's in another room she never goes. Maybe some kind of 1970's main frame computer like room. =P
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This is true, and if you study economics, is actually an observable market phenomenon. Sony pulled this exact same stunt with the PS2, and apologized profusely, and swore that it wouldnt happen. Two years ago, they were talking about tremendous numbers of PS3s for the launch. ANd yet, here we are. Nearly Christmas, and no one can give Sony 700 bucks for a PS3 even if they wanted to. You're mostly likely right. Son
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NOTHING is new anymore. Why, a fax machine is nothing more than a waffle iron with a phone attached!
-Eric
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That verdict is only coming from the people who finished it and won't go back... Everyone else who has actually played it hasn't taken time away to tell you anything. They are busy wearing out their XBox 360 controllers playing the game.
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The other thing I'm waiting for is the 65 nm versions of the chips rumoured to be coming next year. The reduced manufacturing costs may actually allow Microsoft to lower the prices while still maintaining a profit, and the reduc
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I suspect similar scenarios are being played out all over the country.
Gears and R6 (Score:1)
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GRAW is a great game with excellent co-op modes. I have heard good and bad things about Rainbow 6, from what I understand the co-op modes are very good but the multiplayer and single player modes are not excellent. I have played the demo and the game is okay, but not outstanding.
Gears of War is my persona
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Nextgenwars.com (Score:3, Informative)
- Wii: 1,203,618
Of course, they don't state how or where they get their information.Re: (Score:1)
Been hearing rumours for a week or two about... (Score:4, Informative)
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The PS3 delays are not because of the Cell, but because of the diode used in the Blu-Ray laser. IBM has nothing to do with the optical drive.
I think Xbox sales will go up (Score:1)
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Not that I'm against the 360. I've had a ton of
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Walmart has had those units in for days (I think 10 here) they just had to wait to sell them since they advertised in their circular ad (effective today) that they have some.
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Hmm? (Score:2)
That said, Nintendo also has a ways to go before they reach their 4 million projection. They haven't launched everywhere yet, but still have just shy of 3 million to go before they hit their mark.
In fact, it's hard to say if a
RTFA (Score:2)
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No brainer (Score:1)
Observations... (Score:2)
I did see one woman asking about the Wii and she didn't seem to be pleased at all over the prospect of having to wait in line to get one and this was for a December 6th shipme
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I've sort of noticed this. At Wal-Mart, I see a big PS3 display in front, a normal 360 displaly in their case, and the Wii was just a disaster. If I was Nintendo, I'd be a little unhappy with how their using shelf space. Heck, a new SuperCenter (less than 3 weeks open) only made shelf space for the controllers a few days ago. Yesterday, I looked at the games, and the Wii games where finally moved
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I have to agree. It doesn't help that the Wii identity is particular weak so that it fades in the background in the midst of all the chaos and color in stores. I think wherever designed the identity, Nintendo includes, were going for the Apple look. However, they failed to realize that the Wii is competing in a different space than Apple and as such needs to stand
Holiday Sales (Score:1)
This will be the first holiday shopping season where Xbox 360s will be readily available. There were some core systems on shelves last year, but even those ran short. If the 8M figure above is correct, I think hitting 10M this year may be possible. This holiday season, you will not find a PS3 on the shelf and Wiis will be pretty rare. MS will be the big winner this month simply because there are no other choices and very gift givers are going to wait till Feb-March to give their present.
PS3 and Wii wo
10 million don't mean squat (Score:2, Interesting)
* Nintendo GameCube: 21.20 Million as of September 30, 2006 (Japan: 4.02, The Americas: 12.44, Other: 4.75)
* PlayStation 2: 111.25 Million shipped as of September 30, 2006 (Japan: 23.99, USA: 44.86, Europe: 42.40)
* Sega Dreamcast: 10.6 Million as of December 2004 (Japan: 2.30, Other: 8.30)
* Xbox: more than 24 Million as of May 10, 2006
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worl [wikipedia.org]
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The PS2 had a 80 Million unit lead because they started off getting a 10 Million unit lead
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If MS can reach 10 million first, they also need to be the first to reach 20 million and the first to reach 40 million. The figures for the PS2, NGC, and Xbox are so lopsided that it's almost unfair. The PS2 sold twice as much as its three other competitors combined.
I don't think Nintendo can convince the majority of previous PS2 owners to go with the Wii instead of the PS3. Not only does that not make sense, it's being publicly denied as Nintendo's strategy. High-def surround-sound ultra-ne
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Why? Because the PS2 sold more and sooner? Keep in mind that a) the PS2 was $100 cheaper than what people consider the "true" 360 model (even averaging the two versions, the PS2 was $50 cheaper) and b) the PS2 had a rabid follo
10 mil AFTER ONE YEAR (Score:2)
How many of these things actuall work? (Score:2)
First I stuck in Dead Rising. Played single-user for about thirty minutes or so until the sc
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I don't know what caused the problem. I just know that I bought a worthless piece of junk and I thank God I can still return it for my money back.
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It died a few months later, maybe within 90 days. Not sure. I sent it back, they replaced it no hassle, even sent me a box to send it in. They ended up sending me a "new" one (by which I mean different from the one I sent them, it was likely refurbished).
Anyways, that one died on me about a month or two ago (almost a year since original p
Only 6 million XBox 360s sold? (Score:2)
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Once there's enough to satisfy the people willing to wait in line forever, it will sell extremely well "off the shelf", I'm sure.
I think Microsoft will reap the rewards of having plenty of stock, sure, but it really seems like the Wii will hit 10m units as soon as they can roll that many off the assembly lines. The 360 isn't that fortunate.