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More Than 1500 Schools To Deploy DDR By 2010 110

The New York Times is reporting on the popularity of Dance Dance Revolution in augmenting school gym programs. Adopted by educators as a way to fight obesity among young people and encourage participation, the article states that by the end of the decade some 1500 institutions will be using the game in classes. "As Leighton Nakamoto, a physical education teacher at Kalama Intermediate School in Makawao, Hawaii, put it: 'The new physical education is moving away from competitive team sports and is more about encouraging lifetime fitness, and D.D.R. is a part of that. They can do it on their own, and they don't have to compete with anyone else.' Mr. Nakamoto said that he had used the game in class for four years and that his school had also installed the game in its "Active Lifestyle" room, where students are allowed and encouraged to play in their free time."
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More Than 1500 Schools To Deploy DDR By 2010

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  • by fitten ( 521191 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @12:33PM (#18928727)
    One thing about games is that they go in and out of style... will the kids want to keep playing DDR since it's kind of out of style now and will surely be in another two years or so?
    • A large part of DDR is the music, moreso than in most games. Hell they could probably get sponsorship from Sony to jump at the chance to incessantly indoctrinate students with their latest shill artists. If the school board is smart, they'll treat DDR as an engine and do regular updates for content. If they make sure the music is the latest annoying pop-shit and maintain the characters' cartoonishly gay images consistently, it may well remain relevant. Then again public schools have a way of sucking all the
      • If the school board is smart

        [voice type = "Alex Trebek"]Oooooh. Sorry.[/voice]

        Count on this to be mismanaged from the start, and for the school administrators to bang their heads against the wall when they see the potential for this to be really helpful but can't use it to its fullest potential.
        • Yeah, with you there.

          There's always going to be some asshole, or group of assholes, on the school board opposing any change, in any direction, for any reason (or no reason at all).

          Talk about redoing the fitness program because all the kids are obese, and they'll be pushing to go back to naked showers and dodgeball, because "that's how things used to be."

          They're generally ignorant, shortsighted folks who have some sort of appeal to the knee-jerk reactionary set, and thus always get a seat or two on any local
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Jimmy King ( 828214 )
      When I was in school, given the choice between "do actual work of some sort" and "play an old ass, out of date, video game", which was an option in some of my classes, I always went with the latter. Of course I'm a geek and gamer, so that certainly played a role. Also, my choice for doing that was never gym class, which I enjoyed anyway.
    • by Kelbear ( 870538 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @03:11PM (#18931481)
      I went to my friend's house constantly back in highschool, about 6-9 years ago I think?(I forget exactly when DDR got popular).

      DDR Universe released recently for the Xbox360 and I bought it.

      The in-game calorie counter says I've spent about 5000 calories on it(That's about 1.42lbs of fat). I weighed 195, and about a month later, I weigh 193(5'10, 15% bodyfat). So I'm pretty happy with the result of losing weight from playing a videogame. I already have an active lifestyle(weightlifting 3-4 times a week) and a healthy diet. So the 2lbs of weightloss is being added to a high level of weight maintenance(I weigh 230+ if I live normally).
    • by aphrael ( 20058 )
      There's also a degree to which being promoted by schools causes things to go out of style. Will this evolve into a world where DDR and other such video games are only found in schools, not arcades?
  • DDR? (Score:2, Funny)

    by Stormx2 ( 1003260 )
    This showed up on the home page as one of the stories without a summary. I thought to myself "DDR... hmm... probably some kind of RAM/kernel module/bash.org engine" I thought I'd make a witty comment about how it could also stand for dance dance revolution. Well I got here, and now I'm disappointed. What use is an editor if they can't create ambiguous headlines?
  • DDR.
    Land mines.

    Who says two wrongs don't make a right? Muahahahhahahahahah...
    • This ceases to be funny when you know that "DDR" is/was the German abbreviation for the GDR...
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by RobertB-DC ( 622190 ) *
      DDR.
      Land mines.

      Who says two wrongs don't make a right? Muahahahhahahahahah...


      No, DDR doesn't have mines. That's ITG [itgfreak.com]. :)
      • Whatever. I'll take Stepmania, where I can play DDR, ITG and PumpItUp songs.

        I bought a custom-built hard pad for $250. It looks great, works great, and I've lost weight as a result.
    • "You put your left foot in, you put your left foot out
      You put left foot in, and you shake it all about...."

      Man, there's got to be an faster and easier way to clear a minefield!

      (Stolen from an old Ruminations [ruminate.com] post.)

  • Not a bad idea (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PixieDust ( 971386 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @12:46PM (#18928891)
    Regardless as to whether or not the game is currently "in" doesn't matter. It gets people doing something active, without being the aggrivating "omg it's time for gymn class and doing some god awful dodgeball activity, or jump the bleachers thing". It's a frikken video game.

    I still see kids lining up to play this in the malls, arcades, etc. Dozens of people standing around watching. Sometimes you just can't help it. I think it's a great idea, at least it beats sweeping the gym. As for combating obesity, good luck with that. Call my skinny ass when you've figured out how to make people with metabolisms in the stratosphere GAIN weight. I care not for this "obesity epidemic".

    • by networkBoy ( 774728 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @01:01PM (#18929037) Journal
      "As for combating obesity, good luck with that. Call my skinny ass when you've figured out how to make people with metabolisms in the stratosphere GAIN weight."

      Get a salaried position coding. Spend 6am to 9pm in cube coding, eating from the vending machines.
      done.

      -nB
      • Run/cycle to/from work.
        done.

        Errr... Perhaps that actually requires effort, I forgot. Sorry.
        • no no no.
          The ggp asked how to get fatter. cycling is healthy and will burn fat.
          • What he really wants to know is how to not be a skinny ectomorph. The answer is "build muscle," not "pack on fat." Cycling will certainly beef up his legs, but it ain't gonna do much for the upper body.
        • by Acer500 ( 846698 )

          Run/cycle to/from work.
          Ignoring the fact the GP asked how to gain weight, I always see this answer, and wonder... don't you people sweat while running/cycling???

          Not to mention I am required to go to work in formal attire (that would be shoes, tie, dress pants, etc.) which don't mesh well with a bycicle. However, I do walk to work everyday, and I'm still overweight (but nothing like some Americans I've seen, hell, I'd be considered average to slim there).
    • by dave-tx ( 684169 ) * <{moc.liamg} {ta} {todhsals+80891fd}> on Monday April 30, 2007 @01:06PM (#18929117)

      Call my skinny ass when you've figured out how to make people with metabolisms in the stratosphere GAIN weight.

      I wondered the same thing when I was younger, then I found the answer - it's commonly called "your 30's".

    • by Kelbear ( 870538 )
      http://www.johnstonefitness.com/all/front/m.php [johnstonefitness.com]

      This guy managed to weightgain. It's doable. Don't expects results quite like him since he's got a pretty vicious regimen, but you can get something.

      It's based on eating a ton of clean calories(not just random junkfood calories, actual nutrious food). About a 40% protein, 40% carb, 20% fat balance in your diet. You want a large caloric excess, combined with weight training. Wait at least 3 months into the regimen before giving up.

      For a weight training regimen,
      • Ugh, body building, no thanks, lol not quite what I had in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of actually having CURVES!!! Ok, I'm not going beyond that cause yea, I don't want to get mobbed, suffice it to say, that being skinny sucks just as bad, if not more, than being fat. ^_^
    • by tepples ( 727027 )

      Call my skinny ass when you've figured out how to make people with metabolisms in the stratosphere GAIN weight. I care not for this "obesity epidemic".

      Muscle weighs more than fat. To gain muscle mass in your upper body, try curling up in a ball, pulling your shirt over your knees, crossing your legs, putting bag gloves on your hands, and walking on your hands and bottom. Then after you've gone a quarter mile that way, have a few whey protein shakes. Or are you already training and eating big [bodybuilding.com] and still not gaining?

  • DDR Event (Score:3, Funny)

    by neoform ( 551705 ) <djneoform@gmail.com> on Monday April 30, 2007 @12:47PM (#18928893) Homepage
    So can I expect to see DDR at the 2022 Olympics as an event?
    • Dancing already *IS* an olympic event.

      DDR is just a workout tool, although I am not sure how it will prepare you for ballroom dancing. Stamina, perhaps.
      • Stamina, perhaps.

        More so than you realize. When I first started playing Stepmania last summer, I had difficulty climbing more than one flight of stairs. It's a year later, and now I've got more energy than I know what to do with. I've walked the two miles to and from school, rather than take the bus. I almost always prefer the stairs over the elevator.

        When I started, I'd get cramps in my legs for a couple days after each play. I haven't had that in seven, eight months now.

      • DDR is just a workout tool, although I am not sure how it will prepare you for ballroom dancing.
        Ballroom dancing != break dancing != ice dancing. DDR is more like tap dancing than anything else. It's too bad Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire aren't around to endorse DDR products.
    • If you do NOT work out and do NOT watch your diet. Well just google "obesity related diseases", if you can muster the energy that is.

      15 years is a long time and it is a safe bet that a lot of people reading this won't make it. Especially those kids in the article. While none of them were at the extreme there were more fatties then there were when I was in school. In my day the fatties were the minority, in this picture they are the majority.

      DDR won't safe them.

    • Schools don't even have the desire to allow activities that *are* Olympic events. For instance, most schools in the US have policies directly prohibitive of having a biathlon team.
    • by Footix ( 972079 )
      That depends... 2022 is the Winter Olympics, and I'm not really sure whether DDR is a summer or winter sport.
  • Well duh.... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dyslexicbunny ( 940925 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @12:48PM (#18928899)

    In a study last year, researchers from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., found that children playing Dance Dance Revolution expended significantly more energy than children watching television and playing traditional video games.
    I wish I had a job that could deliver obvious results and be considered insightful....
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Palmyst ( 1065142 )

      I wish I had a job that could deliver obvious results and be considered insightful....
      Isn't that what "slashdot poster" is?
  • by Scutter ( 18425 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @12:50PM (#18928915) Journal
    There are a few reasons that this may be a good idea. For one, school competitive sports (not counting extra-curricular sports) are soul-destroying for kids who are not athletic. (Ever been picked last? Been mercilessly reviled because you missed a catch/goal/etc.?) What's wrong with also including some physical activities that aren't team-oriented? Note that I said "also"; team sports are vital for building group skills and should not be dropped. Secondly, with the continued pussification of our kids, many schools have banned such staples as dodgeball, floor hockey, flag football, tag, and many others.

    One big downside, IMHO, is the cost of a standard DDR machine, including upkeep. Heck, the ones at the arcade are falling apart after just a year or so. I can think of better uses for the money that would still accomplish the stated goal.
    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      "Not being good at sports" is a self-inflicted wound and a self-perpetuating fallacy.

      You know how you get better at sports? Practice. Play more and you get better.

      Allowing a kid to sit out a sport because he doesn't think he is any good just contributes to self-victimization, plus the kid loses out on both the health benefits of physical activity and the social benefits of learning to function as a member of a team. Plus it helps teach that your actions carry consequences.

      Dropped a ball and your team lost t
      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by revlayle ( 964221 )
        No, "Not being good at sports" is just nice talk around people who like sports for "I really do not enjoy sports and I cannot be arsed to do an activity I have near ZERO interest in!".

        I'm the same way with kids too... sorry kids :(
      • by Scutter ( 18425 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @02:10PM (#18930381) Journal
        "Not being good at sports" is a self-inflicted wound and a self-perpetuating fallacy.

        You know how you get better at sports? Practice. Play more and you get better.


        I was always mediocre at sports in school. Good enough to get by, not bad enough to be traumatized. I mention this so you know that I'm not just offering bitter gripes based on negative personal experience in school-time sports.

        That said, my school did not teach kids how to play sports. They didn't even teach them to get better at sports (excluding extra-curricular). What they did was divide the kids into two groups and say "Ok, now go play baseball (or football, or dodgeball, or etc.)" We didn't play any one sport enough to get better and we received no coaching with regards to game skills. The goal was to get the kids to excersise. There were many kids in my classes that simply didn't know how to play baseball, and yet they're thrust into this unfortunate situation where they're expected to know all the rules, and they are publicly lambasted and humiliated by fellow students (and sometimes coaches) for failing to immediately excel. It's easy to say "kids will be kids" and that's true, to an extent. It's all part of the growing-up process. I am not trying to demonize team sports in schools.

        I'm just trying to say that there is nothing wrong with diversifying your school PE offerings. You don't have to eliminate team sports (or even significantly curtail them), but what's wrong with also providing physical activity opportunities that are not team-oriented?
      • by Yunzil ( 181064 )
        Dropped a ball and your team lost the game? Now they are all mad at you? That should be good motivation to not drop the ball next time, and should provide extra incentive to practice more.

        No, it's motivation to hate whatever game it was and want to never play it again ever.
      • by lkeagle ( 519176 )
        Mod parent up.

        No one ever got better at anything by sitting on the sidelines. Sure some people may be hurt by their inability do perform, but the better lesson to learn is to try and fail.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      The cost isn't as big of a factor as you think. They aren't using the standard DDR machine you'd find at an arcade. From the article they were basically using pads that you can buy from a retail store for $20 with added protection. Personally I've had two pads go bad on me since 2002. One was because of incorrect storage (someone didn't fold it correctly) and the other was from normal wear and tear. Keep in mind that it is very easy to protect a standard $20 pad. It takes nothing more than a slab of thin pl
      • As individuals, playing on their own time, kids will probably get better at it. If forced to compete with classmates who are much better at it than they are, they'll want to not even bother.

        Take me, for example. I started playing DDR when it originally came out in the States. My younger brother was world's better than I was, and something of a show-off. A few years after he shipped off to the Navy, I started playing Stepmania on a hard pad at a local gaming center, in an effort to lose weight. It was s
        • by Kelbear ( 870538 )
          This is a very good point. Playing DDR does give a small bit of personal pride.

          I remember getting tired after about 30-40 minutes of play and stumbling through 3-4 step songs. Now I can combo almost all the 6-step(highest difficulty is 9 step) songs in DDR Universe, and play pretty much all day. After a grueling 1-hour non-stop battle against the CPU(the random bonus modifiers kept getting assinged to the CPU...truly bad luck) I finally won and was proud to see how much better I'd gotten at the game. I expe
    • However the game is still competitive in a sense. The ratings and difficulties. Yeah I can pass Barbie girl on simple mode. Well I can get a "AAA" on paranoia with fade and double speed turned on. While it may not be as competitive. Shyer kids might have a problem with trying to do easy songs while the more experienced kids are going crazy. Plus ummm how to put this. I as a large out of shape man can only imagine how ridiculous i look when i play the occasional game. I can definately see kids teasi
  • by rlp ( 11898 )
    Next is various school Wii Sports teams, followed by the Link Fencing Club. School fees will help pay for replacement Wiimotes and video screens.
  • "They can do it on their own, and they don't have to compete with anyone else"

    and they say internet alienates people.
    • "They can do it on their own, and they don't have to compete with anyone else"

      Pffft. When I was a teenager, I always did it on my own. There never were any competitions that I knew of. Wait, what were we talking about again???
      • Pffft. When I was a teenager, I always did it on my own. There never were any competitions that I knew of. Wait, what were we talking about again???

        Back in the day, I remember there was a kid, two years younger than I was, in high school band, who "won" such a competition, and became famous for it. Y'see, it was a race. Ever since then, people called him "two stroke." And no, it wasn't an engine reference.

        • by Kelbear ( 870538 )
          Heh, I remember a similar competition in honors bio class, it wasn't even hard for this guy, he could win in under a minute. Amazing.
  • Dancing? (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by BMonger ( 68213 )
    Back when I was their age, we stood up against the bleachers at all dances... AND WE LIKED IT. Kinda. If only Susy would've talked to me... just once. *cry*
    • Back when I was their age, we stood up against the bleachers at all dances... AND WE LIKED IT. Kinda. If only BMonger would've talked to me... just once. *cry*

      Note to everyone, the opposite or same sex is just as nervous to make the first move. The difference between successfull people and well us, is not that they got the lines, or the looks, or the money or the charima, it is that they moved first. Oh and didn't spend all their time around sexes you are not attracted too. Remember computers are fun but

  • American schools (Score:3, Insightful)

    by koreaman ( 835838 ) <uman@umanwizard.com> on Monday April 30, 2007 @01:06PM (#18929115)
    The problem with American schools isn't that they don't have enough money, it's (in part) that the money they have is used incorrectly. This is a great example of such waste. What, exactly, is wrong with running laps or playing sports in P.E.?
    • by avelyn ( 861334 )
      I think the idea is that a lot of kids dread those kinds of activities, so they associate physical exercise with discomfort. They're not just trying to make kids do the exercises but to make them enjoy being active, something that will stay with them for years after gym is done. Whether the schools should be charged with this responsibility is another matter, but if the goal is to try to get this generation to stay active and not obese, then DDR is a great way to do that.
    • What is wrong is that not every kid finds it entertaining, and PE is about exercise, preferably the kind that will stick with a kid for life. For some, it is sports. For others, it will be dancing. Personally, I would pick a game of dodgeball. The key is to be somewhat enjoyable so they will do it more than just "halfass".
      • The point of schools is not to be enjoyable. With "sticking with a kid for life" you have a good point, but I don't see how it applies to DDR: I doubt very many people, relatively speaking, are going to go out and buy a DDR machine because they played DDR at school. Much more are going to run because they ran at school or play football because they played football at school, etc.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Pharmboy ( 216950 )
          The point of schools is not to be enjoyable

          Ever hear of a song called "The Wall"? There is NO reason school can't be enjoyable. Learning *IS* supposed to be enjoyable, which is what makes it happen.

          You make it suck, kids don't pay attention, they don't learn, and all you have is a damn state sponsored day care center. No thanks, I think finding creative ways to have kids enjoy learning and exercising is a better alternative.
          • I have in fact heard of The Wall and rather like it. That doesn't mean song lyrics are useful evidence in an argument.

            I never said school can't be enjoyable; I simply said that that wasn't the point of schools. For an academically interested student (which, let's be honest, isn't everyone), learning can in fact be quite enjoyable. The problem occurs when the learning is sacrificed for the "funness" of lessons, and teachers dumb down their plans to appeal to everyone. Making students stop learning, and turni
            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by Pharmboy ( 216950 )
              as we are talking about P.E., which although an integral part of schools isn't really about "learning", per se.

              P.E. stands for Physical Education. Of course the idea is learning. Many schools teach Sex Ed in PE as well. I learned how to play several sports and how important exercise is. In my old age (over 40) I still play many of the games I first learned in P.E.

              I'm a bit old for dodgeball and fieldhockey, but I know how. Basketball, flag football, kickball, wrestling, etc. were all learned in P.E. I
              • Getting rid of PE in school can only be a good thing. Education is about learning, and learning good habits about exercise and such doesn't mean that you have to go and perform mindless team games or even DDR. PE only encourages the whole garbage that is team sports and makes them more important than actual education to most schools.

                They want to do team sports like football and such, make it separate from actual school. It's no wonder our schools aren't worth crap for actual education; we focus more on w
                • Try France. Good quality schools, 2 hours of education per week, sports either totally disconnected from schools are a minimal part of them.

                  Oh, by "our society" did you mean America?
                • If you want to get rid of extracorricular sports, ok, but P.E. isn't the same thing. Again, there is plenty to learn in P.E., such as everyone deserves a chance to try, as opposed to extracorricular Football, where you must prove yourself to be "good enough".

                  Teamwork isn't a bad thing, and P.E. is also good for blowing stress and frustration for kids. There wasn't real competition anyway, as each day you were on a different team, unlike organized sports.
              • OK, I give in, P.E. does have a learning component. But you didn't answer the rest of my argument.
              • We didn't learn about Teamwork in "English Literature", "Geometry" or "Typing Class". Perhaps your school was different.
                Yes, my school was different. In calculus class, students had to break out into teams of 3 to 5 people and solve very complex story problems. In history class, teams collaborated on a research paper.
      • by dosius ( 230542 )
        I always enjoyed best the square-dance module of phys-ed class.

        Everyone else hated it, guess it's because I didn't come from their neck of the woods.

        -uso.
    • While I agree with the "kids these days" element I can also see the value in this. The fact is that even decades ago kids hated to run. But we did because if you didn't you got in trouble. Times are different now. Is that bad? Perhaps but if the old people did everything better how come they had two world wars while today's youth can barely get a decent escalated police action going. Come on, iraq, afghanistan? Where is the carpet bombing, the agent orange eh? There ain't even any secret bombing of other co

      • by Kelbear ( 870538 )
        Heh, DDR does have some automated derision though. I've grown to hate that smarmy bitch of an announcer in DDR "You must have 3 left feet!", "Is your dance pad broken?!".
    • What's wrong with it is me.

      I hated PE. Running in laps was boring as hell. Boring. BORING. I hate doing boring stuff. And I hate doing stuff I'm not good at and have no intention to get good at. Jumping over some pieces of furniture is not my kind of pastime. And waiting for it for 10 minutes ain't in my books listed as "exciting" either.

      So I didn't run if they didn't force me to do it. Worse, yet, I started forging excuses to skip PE. And until now, working out isn't really on top of my list when it comes
  • Great! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by asninn ( 1071320 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @01:23PM (#18929483)
    As someone who lost a significant amount of weight playing dancing games and who also hates pretty much every other kind of sport (especially competitive sports) I can only say this - great news!

    I've always said (based on my own experiences) that the biggest problem with P.E. is that it fails to actually catch children's interest. Pretty much every young child I've seen loves to be physically active, but the rigid structure of school sports and the emphasis on achieving goals that takes all the fun out of being active also seems to destroy this love for activity in most children very quickly. Putting the fun back into P.E. can only be a good thing, and should also help with the USA's rampant obesity problem.

    So therefore, let me say it again: great news indeed!
    • I've lost weight from DDR also. But it wasn't the ONLY thing I did! MY diet changed, I've since joined a gym. Many of us who cliam high weight loss from DDR have to remember DDR is not the ONLY reason.
      This is good news. Get the kids moving, but it's only a pebble in the lake of the problem. So, toot your horn but remember playing DDR is part. Putting down the cheetos is the other.
    • by RingDev ( 879105 )
      Agreed! I had a friend who lost damn near 100lbs on the DDR diet.

      People will yell about this being a waste of money, but if using technology in this way can help curb the obesity issue in this country, it will well more than pay for itself as the number of over weight adults taxing the health care system with weight related health complications will be reduced as these children grow up.

      -Rick
    • by Junta ( 36770 )

      the rigid structure of school sports and the emphasis on achieving goals that takes all the fun out of being active

      So specifying exactly where your each of your feet must be (one of 5 places) at any given time to earn a particular score is not rigid structure and/or goal oriented?

      The interesting situation here is that it can be conducted with very little equipment (only need a TV and a few square feet of space, on the scale of treadmill/exercise bike/etc), so compared to outside competitive sport it's much more achievable. DDR has been a benefit to a lot of people in the home because it provides *more* feedback on the

  • This would have been really cool in 2001 or 2002.
  • Competition (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Applekid ( 993327 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @01:29PM (#18929627)
    "The new physical education is moving away from competitive team sports . . . They can do it on their own, and they don't have to compete with anyone else."

    If it's part of PE, it won't be on their own. Moreover, DDR players are extremely competitive regarding levels and songs their peers can complete while some can't. (I'm inside that crowd so I'm very much pot-kettle-black.)

    I don't think using a video game for fitness is going to be a magic bullet to get kids bad at sports enthusiastic. Speaking as an ex-fat kid*, team sports and PE performance IS about drive and confidence and when you don't have confidence you can't have drive and you can't be excited about physical activity. DDR is just going to set another watermark for children who are already on the vector to obesity to never be able to obtain; children who already can't: perform one pull up, perform one sit up, run a quarter mile, touch their toes, or pass other basic fitness tests.

    *Full disclosure: DDR *IS* how I lost weight. And the main factor in being brave enough to even start was the nearby arcade which was completely empty of all spying eyes during my lunch break. If I was around peers I'd probably would have snickered a lot and given up way sooner.
    • by mathx ( 988938 )
      Alone in arcade!

      Man, I cant wait til video game consoles for HOME are invented in the late 70s! That'll show the prying eyes!

      (And isolate us more...)
      • "Well, there really aren't any good home pads for DDR unless you're looking at spending a couple hundred bucks. Plus nonstop hopping and stepping is an easy way to summon torches and pitchforks when you live in an apartment with tenants living under you."

        That is, the above is what I would say IF I knew you weren't kidding since that's a pretty uninformed statement.
    • by Ogive17 ( 691899 )
      completely off topic, but why is being able to touch your toes useful? I played soccer and baseball from age 8 through high school, and I was never able to touch my toes... in fact it's the one thing that always kept me from getting the presidential fitness award every year.

      back on topic, I agree with your assessment about DDR. I feel at home playing team sports, but getting on a DDR machine in front of my peers? No thanks.
  • by KlomDark ( 6370 )
    How many people first read this and thought they were going to put Dance Dance Revolution in a bunch of schools.?
  • DDR isn't about the game, but rather about the music. Sure, it helps people that can't dance feel good about themselves (with the people that do have rhythm feeling even better) but without the music the game would be pretty dull.

    With that said, the challenge of the devs is to keep up with music trends in order to release subsequent games. However, the problem here is that most of the music in DDR happens to be Electronica-based and the forms we are familiar with now are dying down in popularity. Granted,
    • Maybe that's the case in the US, but in the rest of the world dance music is still as popular as ever and evolving nicely. And "happy-psy-core"? WTF, do you mean psy trance?
      • And "happy-psy-core"? WTF, do you mean psy trance?
        No, not just psytrance. Happy-psy-core is the fairly-new bastard child of Happy Hardcore and Psytrance. It's a travesty really, but it's what the kids are raving to these days. I've heard a few different names for it as well but none are coming to mind offhand. (Suppressed memory? Probably.)
  • At least better than the alternative.

    Kids want to do exciting things. And if they can't, they'll settle for "at least not too boring" things. And if nothing else, DDR qualifies for the latter.

    It may not be on top of the fads anymore, but it is still fun. Even if you're not too good at it. A team game that you suck in invariably makes you unwanted. You're the last one to be picked. What should fuel "team spirit" actually fuels a pecking order.
  • When I was a kid, we had the NES PowerPad. It came with this lame-o track and field game that basically involved running in place real fast and jumping up and down on the pad. When our parents told us to get some exercise instead of playing that damned Nintendo, we got out the PowerPad and they wailed and moaned at us that "it's still a video game, it doesn't stimulate everything real exercise would, blah, blah, blah." Basically, "it doesn't count."

    So now our lard-ass youth gets DDR machines installed pai
    • > paid for by your tax dollars

      Maybe this will result in fewer tax dollars being spent on Medicare in 40 years time. Maybe.

    • Explain to me how DDR is not exercise.

      I agree with your thesis that this is a waste of money (see my posts above), but you're using a silly argument to support it.
      • I didn't say it wasn't. I was just pointing out the double standard in a way I figured other people might find as humorous as I did. (For reference, the PowerPad was probably pretty good exercise in the same way DDR was, except for the long jump event where we'd run really fast, barely lifting our feet, and then step off the pad for a good couple seconds before hopping back on for the 'jump.' Memories.)
    • So now our lard-ass youth gets DDR machines installed paid for by your tax dollars and because our stupid, fucked up, lazybones, blameless society has slid so far it counts as "exercise" when these kids... Jump up and down and run in place on a pad in time to a video game.

      Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about. I played very heavy DDR for about 2 or 3 years (average 2 hours a day or more during any given week). I stayed at a healthy 145 pounds at 5'8", with calves the size of cantaloupes.

      • What a retard, you put French in your Slashdot post and thought you could get away with it.
        • What a retard, you put French in your Slashdot post and thought you could get away with it.
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          What a retard, you put French in your Slashdot signature and thought you could get away with it.
  • by shaitand ( 626655 ) on Monday April 30, 2007 @03:40PM (#18931947) Journal
    'The new physical education is moving away from competitive team sports and is more about encouraging lifetime fitness'

    This is great news. Somehow I doubt it though. I seem to recall that everything athletic was made into a competition or became one. If they are doing excercise the students will be competing on how many push ups they can do. If you use DDR then they will compete on DDR scores.
  • You know you're old when you thought DDR meant "Difficult Data Retrieval".

    Tom.

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