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Sony Files Patent On "Any-Object" Motion Control

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the +1-car-keys-of-smiting dept.

Input Devices 69

Oracle Goddess writes "Sony filed a patent for a system where a camera can dynamically map any real world object for use in a video game. The patent states that the objects 'include items such as coffee mugs, drinking glasses, books, bottles, etc.' While these are given as examples, the object mapping system is not limited to those objects; it can identify any three dimensional object. The system looks similar to Microsoft's Project Natal, but instead of driving with an imaginary steering wheel, players can use an everyday item like a plate. Although this may seem a bit silly at first, the eventual uses for such a system could be wide-ranging and lead to novel and useful controllers for all sorts of systems and applications."

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What is Japanese for... (2, Insightful)

kulakovich (580584) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598195)

"Prior Art"?


Re:What is Japanese for... (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#28600251)

You have a released product that shows this technology in action?

Re:What is Japanese for... (1)

Rebelgecko (893016) | more than 5 years ago | (#28603339)

There's a similar program for windows. I forgot the name, but it was talked about on slashdot a handful of months ago. You scan an object in front of your webcam and use it as a controller for games and even programs already on your computer i.e. using a pen as a joystick to zoom around in Google Earth. I think it had the word "cam" somewhere in it's name.

Processor (0, Offtopic)

hurting now (967633) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598197)

So what proc will they use for this? There current choice is highly suspect (imo)...

Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598211)

Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)

Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary [youtube.com] [youtube.com]

Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says [bloomberg.com] [bloomberg.com]
  Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds [reuters.com] [reuters.com]
  The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass [dailybail.com] [dailybail.com]
  China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar [bloomberg.com] [bloomberg.com]
  China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency [bbc.co.uk] [bbc.co.uk]
  What are the reserve currencies? [wsj.net] [wsj.net]
  Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors [ml-implode.com] [ml-implode.com]
  Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people' [telegraph.co.uk] [telegraph.co.uk]
  Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats [examiner.com] [examiner.com]
  Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers [cnbc.com] [cnbc.com]
  A False Choice [viewfromsi...valley.com] [viewfromsi...valley.com]
  Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com [ajc.com] [ajc.com]
  Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands [alternet.org] [alternet.org]
  Socialising and Privatising [freeradical.co.nz] [freeradical.co.nz]
  Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses [politico.com] [politico.com]
  Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply [researchrecap.com] [researchrecap.com]

Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund [ft.com] [ft.com]

- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read. [en.rian.ru] [en.rian.ru]

- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom. Saul Alinsky, a man who made the quote as follows, "From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer," is a man who had much influence on the young Barack Obama. A man who admired Lucifer for gaining his own kingdom in an act of rebellion. Barack also subscribed to Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a Afro-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer at the hands of angry African-American mobs. There are over 30 million Americans on food stamps, and more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist." There is no conspiracy against African Americans here by citizens.
- Obama - AIPAC-bootlicker, corrupted to the bone Chicago-style and a traitor to the US Constitution and a liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a lawless authoritarian totalitarian regime such as Barack Obama's, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info [obamacrimes.info] [obamacrimes.info] )
- Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, many lobbyists getting exemptions even though Obama promised not to have them. This is one of many things Obama has lied about.
- Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot Timothy Geithner in "command" of Treasury, with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
- Obama's cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
- Obama lied about having a new degree of accountability and a "sunshine" period for new laws; Obama has signed bills with little or no time for public review at whitehouse.gov as promised. In fact, one of the largest spending bills in US history was passed into law with several members of the House and Senate telling the public there was no time to review the bill, let alone the public.
- Pork Spendulus Bill (The Stimulus Bill) contained language that came directly from Tom Daschle (who published a book detailing his machinations to slip healthcare under the radar in some back portion of a budgeting bill). This language included the funding and authority to set up a central database of all medical treatments rendered, and the Stimulus bill also contains language that alters the Medicare-style instructions to doctors: The most economic treatments should now be used, no longer use the treatments with the most efficacy. Rationed health care, courtesy of a disgraced tax cheat, Tom Daschle. When you relatives are dying in a state hospital because their quota was reached, see how you feel.
- Obama appointed a Second-Amendment violating-denying Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice and thinks of Americans and cowardly racists.
- Obama has put no money at all in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads - apparently to promote more driving.
- Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a lot to hide. They literally lived very close to each other, Rahm had (until being Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama did owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are preemptively using Blagojevich and trying to publically malign and discredit him because he has information that can bring Obama and Rahm Emanuel down. This is the true face of Obama, ruthless, calculating conniving cheat that will stop at nothing to gain and retain power at any cost breaking any rule.
- Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is so corrupted it's a joke. He is connected to international arms dealers, shady property dealings and people of ill repute to gain what he needs from them: financial bootstrapping of his campaign to rule America.
- Fools and "useful idiots" twist the US Federal Budget pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
  2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org] [wikimedia.org]
  2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org] [wikimedia.org]
Now Obama wants to drastically expand the areas of the budget which are getting the most funding by far. There is simply not enough money to fund the obligations made to the public thus far (Unfunded debt obligations which are to pay for the guarantees of social security), let alone Medicare, Medicaid, welfare and other social spending which seeks to guarantee a standard of living to people which is lower what they could gain for themselves. This is an attempt to break the middle class' back so they now need government aid to survive.
- Barack Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and "change you can believe in" will strap you, your children and your grandchildren with more debt. "No taxation without representation!" Obama is spending money for the next two-three generations and they can't even vote yet, or even have been born. This is co-opting those who cannot vote to pay for this man's reckless and illegal endeavor to make everyone a feudal serf of the federal government.
- An alternative to the dollar and a forex and a reserve currency came up at the last G20 meeting. The world will not take faith in Obama's liar-socialist spending and welfare state, why should the taxpayers (plebian citizen-slaves of a police state)?
- The spending going on now vastly eclipses all previous spending. In fact, the massive trillion plus debts is a thing of the 80's onwards. Congress signs the checks, remember that year after year, as egregious as the pentagon spending is, that the social spending is completely a waste of money and it is unfunded over the long term. Eisenhower built the interstate highway system, the USA could build a new power infrastructure with this money but instead this money is being pissed into creating more of an entitlement system that is still unfunded, and without massive head-taxes and far more aggressive progressive taxes, could never be funded.
- The budgeting being done today were recently reported by a non-partisan auditing commission will lead to about 10 TRILLION in new debt over the next 10 years. Obama is going to double the national debt while doing nothing to address the unfunded debt obligations of Social Security, or address any of the out of control egregious spending going on today via the budgets, the federal reserve and its taxation via inflation, or by bailouts and stimulus bills. This is the worst, most unintelligent and most hated congress in the history of the United States, and we have a seriously incompetent and potentially dangerous-to-the-free-constitutional-republic Barack Obama rubber stamping this bloody mess.
- Clinton appointed David Walker of the GAO, he recently quit; the unfunded debt obligations have rendered the USA insolvent according to accounting standards. The USA is already broke and cannot conceivably pay its obligations today.
  Taxpayers on the hook for $59 trillion [usatoday.com] [usatoday.com]
  US Public Debt Unfunded Debt Obligations [wikipedia.org] [wikipedia.org]
- Most of the world population gets nothing from their governments, or a very bare minimum or services that benefit only the upper echelons of society. However, the liar Barack Obama says the USA needs his universal "state-hospital" rationed health care to be competitive. This is pure folderol and a lie. China and India give nothing, and they are the biggest threat to the American worker. By forcing healthcare and higher taxes, Americans will be less competitive.

- If you think 60% tax rates end to end (income, accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog license tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting license tax, fishing license tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, Medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, excise tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle license registration tax, capital gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, airport and FAA taxes and fees, estate tax, misc internet sales tax and many more taxes that I can't recall at the moment) will make the US competitive, along with compulsory programs to provide everyone with health care is going to make the US competitive in the age of India and China, you are incapable of understanding what it takes to build and maintain a successful industrialized republic.

- As the US nationalizes/rations healthcare to the least common denominator of affordability without regard to efficacy, people with money will simply look into medical tourism so those with money can go to medical parks in India and get real health care. Those who have lived in Canada or in the UK can tell you "free" healthcare is not a panacea. If you think this, you are again, a useful idiot. The NHS in the UK has given bad blood and Hepatitis and AIDS infected blood to people, and Jade Goody who just died was misdiagnosed twice resulting in her death (She was "all cleared" twice of the cervical cancer which she just died of). The NHS in the UK is not able to be sued or held accountable. Neither will Obama's rationed health care service for America.
- Sorry to bust the socialist bubble, but support of these types of policies will simply lower the standard of living in the USA, particularly for the middle class. At least at the end of the Eisenhower projects the USA got roads to show for the spending, and with this new spending, the USA could have built power plants that get the USA out of funding the middle east via constant demand for middle-eastern oil, but the age of government for the sake of government is upon us, and the useful idiots line up and believe empty promises.
- The pentagon along with Bechtel, Kroll, Bluewater, Halliburton, etc, could get less than half of what they get today, but that will fix nothing fundamental in terms of government spending. It is simply not enough to make a difference when compared to the Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security entitlements.
See: YouTube - US Government Immorality Will Lead to Bankruptcy [youtube.com] [youtube.com]
- If Obama thinks its ok to lie to 300 million people about being able to "take care of them" without even being honest about what that care would look like, then being an idiot and believing in Obama is for you.
- The head of the IRS and the head of the Treasury, Timothy Geithner, is a Tax Cheat
- Lied about no lobbyists - their numbers are growing within Obama's ranks as he issues exemptions.
- The US Government already has over 50% of the budget spent on Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security. Socialists: Good job on that one, its working great. Solution to the current near-collapse-due-to-over-spending: add more unfunded entitlements! And this is still a "George Bush" budget. Over half is being spend on Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security.
- This man is such a propagandist that he invented "The Office of the President Elect," the seals, the flags, the podium and that forum was all props and the media never once questioned any of it. It was an invention. This is the power of Obama, technicalities and rules do not apply.
- The Socialist-liars can break my spirit and my financial back to force me to "need" a federal government that is turning this country into a police state and is turning it into a quasi-socialist lie, but I will, I must put up a fight. I have kids to educate and feed, and the stuff the pseudo-socialist authoritarian Obama sells (which is failing to various degrees everywhere else as implemented) is simply forcing a culture of failure on a once great, libertarian free country.
- I will not be complacent with your "change," and there will be a point where civil war will become an option. See how hard you can push before you get it. How much more than half can the truly productive workers in this country afford to pay. Keep pushing to find out how to start a civil war. The scariest thing about Obamabots is the amount of pleasure they derive from completely defying the US Constitution and giving the government non-enumerated non-extant powers to rule over everyone's quality of life.
- The socialist-lie of a plan will not work, its not fundable, it will destroy the currency to fund it, and its really as simple as this: if this insanity is funded by borrowing from the US's economic and military adversaries then Obama and his socialist cabal is not fit to administrate society. Rome fell. Kings who mis-manged their treasuries all fell. Every example of unhinged spending leads to the same result: systemic collapse.
- Obama and his sycophantic lunatics would want to have a civil war to get Obama's way and force the socialist-lie system on my already tax paying law abiding ass. And as far as "no new taxes" for those under 250k, its a lie, the tax is called inflation, which is set to begin just about now that the Chinese wont want the USA's worthless treasuries to fund the socialist-lie fantasy (one that COMMUNIST China doesn't even try and sell to its people!) Also, what Obama fails to mention is the states are now compelled to implement his new rules, and to follow the rules the states must raise taxes. Obama may not tax those under 250k, but every last one of the 50 states will.
- Barack Obama's numbers don't add up. There is a $59 trillion dollar hole (UFDO) in social security alone. AIG $150 billion here, TARP $350 billion there. $800 billion for a highly dubious pork laden stimulus package. Another one on the way. $59 trillion hole in the balance sheet IGNORED. China saying they aren't going to buy treasuries, calling for new reserve currencies, Clinton clamoring to find buyers now. $3.6 trillion dollar budget, potential military action on Mexico, Iran still a "terrorist state" at the behest of the AIPAC, spending up, dollar about to fall, inflation over time since Breton Woods extremely easy to document, yet, the socialist-liars question when the numbers (the Federal Government numbers) simply don't add up to the point where if the US-GOV was a company it would be insolvent.
-How dare the taxpayers question what Barack Obama's drastic spending increases are going to do to the purchasing power of our savings because Barack Obama wants to recklessly spend and try to maintain and American empire AND guarantee a standard of living, and Obama doesn't even want to build a single nuclear power plant to do it? Barack Obama must be a complete and total lunatic moron at best. He is a man child, akin to Michael Jackson, who does not live in the real world. This guy has turned the White House into a Neverland Ranch.
- Obama is either a negligent idiot or an unhinged maniac with delusional fantasies. Meanwhile, Obama's tax dodging Treasury Secretary has 17 unfilled positions, the Treasury Dept. isn't even functioning at this point while the rest of the world steadily loses faith in one of the two things that makes the USA relevant in the world at all: the dollar as a "hard" or reserve currency and the US military.
- "General welfare" in the constitution was, according to the man who wrote it, Madison, meant to be extremely limited in scope. The federal government per the constitution doesn't even have the enumerated POWER to deal with economic messes. A lot of these "POWERS" were created while there is a crisis to dupe the public into accepting an un-constitutional authoritarian regime as the government and to usurp authority over the people.
- The USA is a constitutional republic. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting to eat a sheep. Also a constitutional republic isn't about using a barely-majority or a plurality to stuff your (un-fundable disastrous) crap down the disenfranchised other-half's throat.
- With Obama's authoritarian corrupted criminal (aiding and abetting a criminal in flight of prosecution, Rich case) Eric Holder in charge, we won't have our inalienable and enumerated rights to firearms much longer. For a constitutional law expert, Obama must have never read the federalist papers or he would simply hand himself as a traitor. Already there is talk of banning firearms to help Mexico's fight against the cartels. What they fail to mention is the firearms that are being used there are Mexican Military firearms being used by those who defected from the Mexican Army into the cartels directly! The firearms in question were sold to the Mexican military, over 170,000 soldiers are gone with the guns. And now the US citizens have to give up inalienable and enumerated rights? This is insanity.
- The arbitrary expansion of "general welfare" is not only unconstitutional, it may very well lead to a serious conflict on the issue.
- Here is a debate on general welfare and how stuff like this came to pass, but was clearly no intended by the authors of the document of root law.
In Federalist No. 41, James Madison asked rhetorically: "For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power?" (In reference to the general welfare clause)
So strongly did the founders believe that "general welfare" wouldn't be expanded as written:
In Federalist No. 84, Alexander Hamilton indirectly confirmed Madison's point. (That the "general welfare" clause was "clearly" not a free pass for government)
Hamilton argued that a bill of rights, which many were clamoring for, would be not only unnecessary, but dangerous. Since the federal government was given only a few specific powers, there was no need to add prohibitions: it was implicitly prohibited by the listed powers. If a proposed law a relief act, for instance wasn't covered by any of these powers, it was unconstitutional.
  "why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said, that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed?"
Hamilton goes on to argue that making Amendments (e.g., enumerating Free speech, press and assembly) and enumerating the 'right' would have the following effect:
  (A bill of rights) "would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretence for claiming that power that is, a power to regulate the press, short of actually shutting it down. "
  "With respect to the words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers (enumerated in the Constitution) connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." --James Madison [The US Supreme Court has found the meaning of "general welfare" in the Constitution to be much more elastic than did Mr. Madison. But as the "author of the Constitution," what does he know?]
James Madison, when asked if the "general welfare" clause was a grant of power, replied in 1792, in a letter to Henry Lee,

If not only the means but the objects are unlimited, the parchment [the Constitution] should be thrown into the fire at once.

"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government , and to provide new Guards for their future security. ...--The Declaration of Independence
- Monetizing failures causes more. Japan showed us this for decades. But hey, Barack Obama is actually dumb enough to think you can fix a problem DECADES in the making with a quick fixer-upper. He is screwed in the head or, more likely, lying to the American public to quickly get done the things he wants to get done before he gets thrown out on his ass.
- The complaints are with the Federal government (in general) since Breton Woods. The Federal Government and Obama's minions STILL didn't listen to David Walker, a Clinton appointee and former head of the GAO. This isn't about political parties anymore- its about spending the future to the point where today collapses. History is replete with examples of fiat currencies and deficit spending leading to collapse.
- Show me a single federal budget that was less than the previous. If this $3.6T budget goes, it is never coming back barring systemic collapse. The only President to ever see the US Public Debt at $0 dollars is Andrew Jackson.
- The United States Federal Government, The United States Federal Reserve, and the banks which were enabled to continue down reckless paths by a quasi government agency known as the Federal Reserve whose actions are not subject to congress and whose members are unelected. This situation is untenable and unconstitutional.
- Every inflationary road taken in history ends in collapse. Keynesian policies are widely regarded as no longer workable. And while Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, David Walker, Nouriel Roubini, Warren Buffet and Jim Rodgers warn about or predict all the failures, people still refuse to listen to the possibility that the US economy may contract for many years, and spending at these levels is something that can give way to a collapse.
- Inflation is a tax: What ignorant tax and spenders don't take into account here is the relative percentages of people's wealth (both net and gross) and the costs of owning and maintaining houses, cars, standards of living.
- Inflation via deficit spending is going to make it such that you will be paying a lot more by percentage of your income to maintain a given standard of living. Obama's arguments are so poorly thought out and seek to blame "Republicans" for the mess, its really simply laughable - this unhinged budgeting and currency management crisis needs cleanup now, not worsening.
- You can't spend your way out of a hole if the creditors (e.g. China) start telling the USA they won't buy. It is that simple. Now America starts to have to collateralize the debt with assets. The USA will be selling off chunks of American assets to back the new debt. One day, it may even be necessary to sell Alaska back to Russia because no one will take greenbacks to prop up a failing version of a modern Rome.
- Ah, here we go with the Matthew Lesko arguments. [lesko.com] [lesko.com]
Interest rates were on the rise before the government stepped in with free money for everyone (the fine print of course indicate massive strings attached).
Other economies, for example, India, have the central rates set to far more reasonable/realistic rates (at the moment ~ 8+%), which is still tends to be too low, but shows that if you need someone else capital you need to pay a premium for it, and given that capital is in short supply, it would stand to reason that a premium must be charged for it.
The problem is the unrealistic growth rates of mature economies don't allow for profiting via growth projections (rather than simply earning money). So the government steps in, turns on the free money spigot, gets the interest rates for savings down in the 1-2% range while diluting the value of the whole currency in order to prop up dying companies that ran the business like a Madhoff Ponzi scheme. Ponzi schemes need new money or they cease to exist. This is why the Federal Reserve is trying to issue more Reserve Notes. Without this fresh input of printed money, the Ponzi scheme will collapse.
- The Republicans aren't solely responsible for the crisis as Obama's minions would have you believe, congress is (no particular congress), the Executive of the US government (no particular one) and the US Federal Reserve System are all at fault.
- Fundamentally, the government is trying to fix the prices of various things to "make it all work." This pulling on the invisible hand is a fools venture. It was predicted long ago the housing collapse (and those, such as myself, in the know, wished while realizing the housing collapse coming that we were wrong for everyone's sake - but the truth is the truth) . It may be that the Austrian (von Mises) economists will ultimately be proven right.
- We are a nation of partially educated whiney grabby idiots, and we got the government that represents this. The Chinese, India and other up and coming nations will show no mercy for this arrogant abuse of our status as the world's forex reserves.
- War and asset sales will continue to be the only option for this scheme until it is corrected at the core. And to say that the government has already averted a depression by doing what they did (most of the monies injected wont be "felt" for some time), is just arrogance and stupidity. Price fixing prolonged the Great Depression. Price-fixing (or attempting to) houses will do the same, but probably worse.
- Obama's minions simply don't care if the US is bankrupted and rendered insolvent, they just want a say in how its done, presumably to "feel safe." Rather selfish.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." AND "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (Possibly Richard Jackson)

- Everyone better realize that inflation will pay a major role in funding un-fundable fantasies, wiping the savers and the middle class out. The problem is, that other countries are growing tired of making our Federal Reserve notes worth something by buying our debt as treasuries. Obama's minions talk about spending, but in order to "get what YOU want" you will sell debt to potential economic and military adversaries? Real bright. What's really sad is that despite David Walker being an authority on these issues, people refuse to even watch him and listen to what he is saying. Instead of seeing the truth and the bottom line of the unfunded debt obligations, they want HOPE and CHANGE, which are simply concepts which the foolish change into their own personal hopes and changes, but Obama never bothered to outline what to hope for exactly or what he will be changing.
- We have a fraud, a huckster, an empty suit for a President, a Community Organizer. This man does not have the ability to formulate an original thought, or to command action. He is a know nothing that lives in a pretend world just like Michael Jackson ensconced himself in Neverland ranch, he will hide behind those who surround him, which happen to be incompetent people who have no compunction about spending the country into oblivion to achieve personal agendas.
- On the success of Canada and its form of Socialism: A huge country like Canada with massive amounts of uranium and tar sands and natural resources and a huge land mass with a scant 30 million people is an order of magnitude less of a problem to manage than a country with 10x its population, a serious leaky southern border, backfiring aggressive foreign policy, particularly with Iran, and the US is competing with countries like India and China whose middle classes are larger than the US's entire population. The top 5 students in every Indian and Chinese primary school out numbers all the kids in primary school in the US. Canada is a idyllic island, the USA is front and center in an all out economic and political clash of ideologies.
- Cap and trade (and pollution control for solving global problems) will never work unless the top 10 countries in the world (in terms of GDP, manufacturing capacity and population) are on board. Period. end. If the world doesn't quickly move to nuclear now and fusion shortly, it is over. Possibly not if every home on the planet gets a wind vane, but that seems unlikely to happen (since its possible now).
- Keynes calls it "the paradox of thrift" and suggested that policies forcing people not to save is a "good idea." The guy wanted people spending all the time, or if he didn't, he never conveyed that to his protégés well enough for them to not do what they are doing. Right now the plebeians in the US are actually stashing cash, and everyone from Obama to the media is trying to get people to spend spend spend. The best thing for the long term is for people to prepare for the coming hell, not set out with no reserves.
- I have seen Keynes invoked to justify nearly every bad move in the past decade, and its warming up to be a potential currency collapse, the collapse of the US Treasury and Federal Reserve notes, and a collapse of the NYSE. And then they invoke Keynes to suggest the best way out of the mess is to spend out of an already near-critically debt massed black hole.
- A house is run like a town is run like a country or business is run like a state is run like a government. If there are things the government is doing that would either force your home into bankruptcy or into jail via fraud charges, then the government and banks shouldn't be operating in that fashion. A certain degree of stretchy liquidity is in order, but in terms of percent of GDP, there is no way of justifying what they US has now.
- Iceland failed at 850 percent debt to GDP. The US is at 350 and rising. It is not a good thing at all.
- What is happening to the dollar as a forex standard. [youtube.com] [youtube.com]
- March 19, 2009 C-SPAN - "Let's Quit Destroying Our Dollar!" [youtube.com] [youtube.com]
- HR 1207 (A bill to make the Fed more accountable and to answer questions regarding the dollar policy) [loc.gov] [loc.gov]

Title: Obama sidetracked by fiscal mess, but presses on [yahoo.com] [yahoo.com]
"Being heard above the din may prove difficult. Lawmakers are wrangling over taxing people who got big bonuses and worrying the president's budget could generate $9.3 trillion in red ink over the next decade."
- Kremlin to pitch new global currency [infowars.com] [infowars.com]
Russia proposes creation of global super-reserve currency.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

I hope they make money on the patent... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598233)

'cause they sure won't make much selling special controllers anymore.

I got your controller right here! (4, Funny)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598243)

As with all inventions, this will lead to ungodly adult game uses.

Re:I got your controller right here! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598763)

Considering the average god's behavior, I would use the phrase "godly" instead.

Re:I got your controller right here! (1)

Doggabone (1025394) | more than 5 years ago | (#28608389)

Considering the average god's behavior, I would use the phrase "godly" instead.

Also, there is the high number of times "God" is mentioned during many adult activities.

Re:I got your controller right here! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598875)

I believe this system only works for the male species.

Re:I got your controller right here! (1)

thewils (463314) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599903)

IANAB (Biologist) but I don't think you could ever have a completely male species. The word you were looking for, I believe, is 'gender'.

words have gender, people have sex (1)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 5 years ago | (#28600985)

Gender is a linguistic term; a grammatical category for words. The term that covers male and female members of a species is "sex".

Actually, as someone who generally favors description [wikipedia.org] over prescription [wikipedia.org] in language, the above claim might seem a trifle hypocritical, but the fact is, I simply like saying "words have gender, people have sex". :)

Furthermore, the use of the namby-pamby term "gender" in cases where "sex" works just fine--merely because some clueless people might feel it's risque or something--is the kind of politically correct garbage that makes me want to kick some...ass. Not bottom, not hiney, not rear, not posterior--ass.

Re:words have gender, people have sex (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 5 years ago | (#28619417)

The poor donkeys...

You can dynamically map my .... (0, Offtopic)

planckscale (579258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598245)


Re:You can dynamically map my .... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598409)

...only when you can pry from my cold, dead hands...

Re:You can dynamically map my .... (0, Offtopic)

planckscale (579258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598469)

...natalie portman covered in hot grits...

Re:You can dynamically map my .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598479)

... shiny metal ass?

Re:You can dynamically map my .... (1)

planckscale (579258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599071)

I'll drink to that!

Common objects (1, Insightful)

arigram (1202657) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598253)

Other "common" objects that would be just asking to be used in a game: - Swords, knives - Batons, staves, nunchucks - Guns, rifles - insert lethal weapon of your choice here) I mean, you're playing an FPS or an RPG and you can use any item as a controller? Who can resist going overboard with realism!

Re:Common objects (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598313)

new warning label:

Ensure chamber is clear and magazine is empty before starting game.

Re:Common objects (2, Funny)

JCSoRocks (1142053) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598321)

Yeah, a wiimote hitting your TV is nothing in comparison to a bullet.

Re:Common objects (1)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598509)

Yeah, now instead of handling a controller that feels like a dinner plate I can just get a dinner plate...

Not even oxiclean (3, Insightful)

BillyMays (1587805) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598271)

can take the stains out of patent law that allows things like this. What if a user wants to use a wiimote as their motion device of choice with Sony's system? At that point does it fall under Sony's blanket patent? This is like carpet bombing - no specific target, just try and cover as much ground as you can.

Re:Not even oxiclean (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598337)

I've got to disagree. This is pretty brilliant. Basically taking anything you'd pretend to be a weapon as a kid, and turn it into an in-game weapon.

Plastic light sabers become real ones. Even if your light saber of choice is the Wiimote

Re:Not even oxiclean (3, Informative)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598363)

The patent covers the method for detecting and tracking the object. It has nothing to do with patenting the object itself. I see no reason there would be any legal issue with using a Wiimote as a visually-tracked controller – although I'm quite sure that none of the buttons would work, since it's basically just tracking the movement of the rectangular white object.

Re:Not even oxiclean (1)

Absolut187 (816431) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598519)

At that point does it fall under Sony's blanket patent?

I don't know, did you read the actual patent application before you started your rant?

It can be found here:

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=(%22virtual+world+light+sword%22.BIS.)&OS=SPEC/ [uspto.gov] "virtual+world+light+sword"&RS=SPEC/"virtual+world+light+sword"

Does the Wiimote do everything recited in claim 1?

1. A computer implemented method to interactively capture and utilize a three-dimensional object to be a controlling device for a computer system, comprising:(a) capturing depth data of the three-dimensional object;(b) processing captured depth data of the three-dimensional object to create geometric defining parameters for the three-dimensional object;(c) defining correlations between particular actions performed with the three-dimensional object and particular actions to be performed by the computer system; and(d) saving to a recognized object database the geometric defining parameters of the three-dimensional object and correlations between particular actions performed with the three-dimensional object and particular actions to be performed by the computer system in response to recognizing the particular actions.

And FYI - its just a published patent application, not an issued patent. The USPTO has not even examined it yet.

If the Wiimote does everything claimed, then they will have a hard time getting their claims issued and/or asserting them in court later.

So... simmer down.

Re:Not even oxiclean (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598829)

I'd say (b) and (d) are the particular claims which are not relevant to the Wii's motion tracking remote. The Wii doesn't care about "geometric defining parameters" of the three-dimensional object. It's not tracked by (visual) geometric parameters but rather by radio-frequency communications. Sony's patent claim hinges on these: it is able to track ANY object based on the "geometric defining parameters" of the object itself – e.g. by its shape (and its colour, I'd assume, although I wouldn't consider that to be a geometric parameter of the object).

Isn't that what Sony showed on stage? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598287)

Sony also showed off some video motion recognition stuff, only they used tagged controllers the video could recognize from the markings. Rather than being "just like natal" it sounds like what they showed.

It seems like you have to have some kind of object to interact with to make a game interesting, otherwise simple body movements alone are too limiting and clumsy. Even just using a lightsaber, you have to have some way to turn it on and off - you didn't see obi-wan using voice controls or resorting to the Clapper.

Re:Isn't that what Sony showed on stage? (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598417)

I don't really see that being much of a problem. Either make the lightsaber automatically activate when opponents are nearby, or just leave it active all the time... it's not like you'd end up inadvertently slicing your leg off if the saber is left on like you probably would if you were running around with a real lightsaber (okay, lightsabers aren't real... but you get my point).

Sounds un-fun (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598929)

Either make the lightsaber automatically activate when opponents are nearby, or just leave it active all the time...

That doesn't sound like much of a game to me - much of the fun is turning the thing on and off! In fact I have to say, that I'd prefer a game where you simply turn lightsabers on and off to some Star Wars games we've had over the years...

A Star Wars game does seem the most likely candidate for a good adaptation for full-body controls, though frankly I doubt the general populace is going to be doing flips much.

Re:Sounds un-fun (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#28600307)

Either make the lightsaber automatically activate when opponents are nearby, or just leave it active all the time...

That doesn't sound like much of a game to me - much of the fun is turning the thing on and off! In fact I have to say, that I'd prefer a game where you simply turn lightsabers on and off to some Star Wars games we've had over the years...

Yeah, talk about a mood killer when you're walking down a dark hallway and your lightsaber turns itself on telling you that there's an enemy nearby. Or how about walking up to a door first to see if there's an enemy behind it before opening it. Sounds lame to me. When did Jedi Sense ever automatically turn on the sabers? What if it's a more powerful Sith hiding behind the wall and it's blocking the force?

Re:Sounds un-fun (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 5 years ago | (#28603711)

meh, that's fairly tame compared to the games where your Jedi character always has his lightsaber turned on and will automatically block incoming blaster bolts without you even doing anything.

Irony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598325)


[I]nstead of driving with an imaginary steering wheel, players can use an everyday item like a plate.

What about the plastic steering wheel that came with Mario Kart Wii? Would that work?

Fly simulators (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598329)

I can see a surge in flight simulator popularity. Not only do you have a built-in joystick you can also jack off using the same hand!

Re:Fly simulators (1)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598477)

Whoa, that's a... big gun.

(Bruce Campbell, Tachyon: The Fringe - sound test)

But ... but ... (1)

powerlord (28156) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598349)

Although this may seem a bit silly at first, the eventual uses for such a system could be wide-ranging and lead to novel and useful controllers for all sorts of systems and applications.

But this is SONY!!! Where is the unmitigated HATE in the summary?

I mean, I WANT to buy lots of shaped plastic and form for absurd $$$ from Nintendo. Doesn't everyone?

And besides, everyone knows that MS are the only ones to Innovate in the whole computer business. I mean, if it weren't for them we'd all be using abacuses ... without even the helpful advice of Clippy!

Re:But ... but ... (1)

Dutch Gun (899105) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599493)

Dripping sarcasm aside, it's not about hate for Sony or love for MS... it's just that these sorts of patents seem to put up more roadblocks to widespread adoption of a technology than anything else, so they're not exactly bound to be popular. Take the example of rumble in game controllers, for example. My PS3, for example, has no rumble feature in the controller. As such, I either have to purchase a new controller AFTER the patent licensing has been worked out, or I can just buy the game for my 360 instead. For users that don't own all the current consoles, it was, I'm sure, rather annoying to go without a last-generation feature that adds a lot of immersiveness to games (at least for me, it does).

Personally, I'm not completely anti-patent like a lot of people here are. I do think software and 'business process' patents should be abolished, though, and I think the US patent office should take a hard look at reducing the length of some types of patents in which 17 years is an ungodly long time to have a patent.

Re:But ... but ... (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#28600409)

Personally, I think software patents are stupid anyway. You can copyright software, but you shouldn't be able to patent it. Software is like a book. It tells you how to do something or it can entertain. If you could patent ideas on how that should happen or what it looks like (as in software) you will have publishing companies that patent character types in books (orcs, detectives, housewives), methods of page alignment, location of copyright, titles, separation of chapters or volumes, and all kinds of stupid things. Could you imagine if a book company could patent a method of aligning pages so that the numbers increment from 1 to X? What if they could patent the idea of a book about an ancient medieval castle, knights, and a horses...

Patents should only apply to physical objects.

trading spouses (1)

RemoWilliams84 (1348761) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598355)

The first thing I though of was the Chapelle show "Trading Spouses" skit where the guy finds the woman's dildo and is waving it around like a light saber.

Leaching innovation (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598361)

This type of technology was already used by project Natal.

I think they're just leaching off of innovation and attempting to steal the idea.

Already Available: CamSpace (3, Informative)

fpgaprogrammer (1086859) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598381)

you can download camspace and use your webcam to track objects and control games right now:

http://www.camspace.com/ [camspace.com]

Re:Already Available: CamSpace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598483)

Not prior art though because CamSpace uses magic: http://www.camspace.com/about [camspace.com]

Re:Already Available: CamSpace (1)

Java Pimp (98454) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598933)

Not prior art though because CamSpace uses magic: http://www.camspace.com/about [camspace.com]

Sure but magic [wikipedia.org] predates all modern technology so it should still qualify...

Re:Already Available: CamSpace (1)

markringen (1501853) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598565)

or you just buy an old eyetoy game.

Patent number? (1)

Jarlsberg (643324) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598529)

Tried to find it here http://patft.uspto.gov/ [uspto.gov] , but couldn't locate it. Anyone got the patent number?

Re:Patent number? (3, Informative)

Absolut187 (816431) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598593)

Its just a published application, publication no 20090158220.

No patent yet - the PTO hasn't even examined the claims.

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220090158220%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20090158220&RS=DN/20090158220 [uspto.gov]

Re:Patent number? (1)

Jarlsberg (643324) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598611)

Ah, didn't think of that. Thanks a lot for the link :)

Re:Patent number? (2, Informative)

mercosmique (1415693) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598597)

The application number is 20090158220, not sure if that is what you mean or if it helps.

Re:Patent number? (1)

Jarlsberg (643324) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599421)

Yeah, it does. I read the write-up thinking that that it had already been approved, so now wonder I didn't find it. Thanks.

First thought... (1)

AscianBound (1359727) | more than 5 years ago | (#28598705)

Was anybody else's first thought......using your own penis as a joystick?

No? I must have something wrong with me.....

Re:First thought... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598919)

#28598243 [slashdot.org]
#28598329 [slashdot.org]

Re:First thought... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28598983)

Thanks to the wonders of duct tape, I've been doing this since November 2006 [wikipedia.org]

Been done? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599239)

I'm pretty sure I've seen this demoed, might even have come in a demo with a Logitech camera I got several years ago.

Prior Art (2, Interesting)

Gumshoe (191490) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599243)

The system looks similar to Microsoft's Project Natal, but instead of driving with an imaginary steering wheel, players can use an everyday item like a plate.

You can hold "everyday item's like a plate" with Natal too. The difference is that you don't have to for it to work.

Re:Prior Art (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599717)

The system looks similar to Microsoft's Project Natal, but instead of driving with an imaginary steering wheel, players can use an everyday item like a plate.

You can hold "everyday item's like a plate" with Natal too. The difference is that you don't have to for it to work.

An interesting question - considering Natal also tracks body motion and location, could the "everyday item" be something like your hand/fist? One of the Natal demo videos showed a family holding their fists above their upturned palm of the other to use as a gameshow buzzer (by lowering their fist to their hand).

It's going to be interesting times between Sony's patent and Natal...

Re:Prior Art (1)

Gumshoe (191490) | more than 5 years ago | (#28600077)

I think the demo video for Natal went to ridiculous extremes to showcase the technology. The "hand buzzer" thing to which you refer being one, the invisible steering wheel being another. It's an interesting technology but I agree with Natal's detractors in that tactile feedback is important in many gaming situations.

In my opinion, equating Natal with "hands free" is potentially a marketing mistake. But then again, "hands free" is more casual and that's a huge market so perhaps Microsoft is right. The beauty of Natal though is that it can, like the tech in this patent, do "hands on" too.

That said, Sony's patent seems to be something else entirely. It claims to be able to recognise objects in 3d space and presumably, orientation of those objects. I'm afraid however that that is where my imagination fails me. I can't understand how that level of tech could be more effective in a gaming environment than what is already available (or soon to be). Anyone have any ideas?

Another trollish patent (3, Insightful)

rollingcalf (605357) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599737)

This is yet another patent where they haven't actually gotten the specified technology to work as described; they just patent it ahead of time so when somebody else gets it to work they can sue them. The USPTO needs to bring back the requirement for a working prototype.

Re:Another trollish patent (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#28600439)

Sony has demonstrated facial recognition and object recognition before. Not exactly a baseball bat, but you could draw objects on paper and the EyeToy would implement it into a game.

Re:Another trollish patent (1)

rollingcalf (605357) | more than 5 years ago | (#28600675)

But they haven't implemented anything as fancy as what is described in the patent.

Re:Another trollish patent (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | more than 5 years ago | (#28601659)

Facial Recognition is hardly real world mapping of 3d objects. it is more pattern recognition and either way such technologies have been around for decades, including the idea of 3d mapping, not sure how they can possibly claim this is innovative/new/non obvious. Sounds more like they are trying to preempt where nintendo and Microsoft are already going to try and maybe win in courts where they failed in technology.

Not quite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28602105)

The way the patent system works, all they have to do is add one little phrase to all this "per existing tech" and make it innovative. In this case, blah blah blah (the stuff you mentioned) followed by "to control an object or avatar within a virtual world".

Bam! USPTO considers it innovative cuz no one else has done all the blah blah blah "to control an object or avatar within a virtual world".

Re:Not quite (1)

Theaetetus (590071) | more than 5 years ago | (#28607265)

The way the patent system works, all they have to do is add one little phrase to all this "per existing tech" and make it innovative. In this case, blah blah blah (the stuff you mentioned) followed by "to control an object or avatar within a virtual world".

Bam! USPTO considers it innovative cuz no one else has done all the blah blah blah "to control an object or avatar within a virtual world".

35 USC 103. Prior art reference 1 describes the existing tech. Prior art reference 2 describes controlling an avatar. The motivation to combine them is to use the existing tech to control an avatar in a new and intuitive way.

So, no, that's not "the way the patent system works". You appear to understand 35 USC 102 and novelty, but have completely missed 103 and obviousness.

Re:Another trollish patent (1)

Theaetetus (590071) | more than 5 years ago | (#28607233)

The USPTO needs to bring back the requirement for a working prototype.

Agreed. Why should inventors who aren't backed by major corporations with multi-million dollar research and development labs be entitled to patents? Our Founding Fathers certainly didn't envision a world where someone could invent something, write it up in hundreds of pages of such extreme detail that anyone with the resources could build it, and get a patent without ever having actually shelled out millions of dollars to prototype it.

Prior Art, bigtime. (1)

ikekrull (59661) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599971)

If theres anything in this patent that isn't described in detail in this book:


and/or implemented in this library:


i'll be pretty damn surprised.

Scooby Doo and the Phantom virus (0)

Ontheotherhand (796949) | more than 5 years ago | (#28599999)

Scooby doo went there years ago. could an animation count as prior art?

MS Surface? (0)

TrancePhreak (576593) | more than 5 years ago | (#28603137)

I've seen surface videos where everyday objects were recognized, not to mention someone else pointed out OpenCV. Seems like Sony has been blindfolded for this kind of stuff.

joy, sticks. (1)

bronney (638318) | more than 5 years ago | (#28604071)

Wow Wing Commander just become so much fun. I can't wait.

Nintendo ON (1)

Dwedit (232252) | more than 5 years ago | (#28620299)

Remember the fake Nintendo ON video? Even that featured mapping real objects into the game world.

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