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EA's Dungeon Keeper Ratings Below a 5 Go To Email Black Hole

timothy posted about 9 months ago | from the every-blizzard-is-crisp-and-refreshing dept.

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fplatten writes "I would definitely call this unethical manipulation of the ratings system: the Worst Company in America, EA is routing all ratings made in game of 1 to 4 stars as an email that is sent to EA, but all 5 star ratings are routed to the Google Play store, where its rating is currently 4.3 out of 5."

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Works for Slashdot as well... (-1, Offtopic)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about 9 months ago | (#46199901)

I've noticed that Slashdot admins have been using their unlimited mod points to deep-six anti-Beta posts into moderation oblivion, as well, not to mention all the anti-Beta "Anon Cowards" that they simply delete...

Re: Works for Slashdot as well... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199917)

While I hate beta, that's just not true because every article has been a cesspool of bitching about the change.

Re: Works for Slashdot as well... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200133)

And if you bother to look at the mod points awarded you will see many many -1 levels (much more than normal) and even the GP modded to 0 as off topic

The point is that the topic of this article is corporate overlords HIDING negative comments about their products

Oh the fricking ever-loving irony of it all, a story about some despotic game maker shuttering off negative comments about their products being displayed on a nerd=site where all negative comments about the quality of the site are hidden away as -1 or off topic

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the dice-lords of slashbetahell are making certain that their advertising customers never make low mods visible, because it is all noise...

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1, Offtopic)

elrous0 (869638) | about 9 months ago | (#46199963)

Fuck beta.

Right: Beat them @ their OWN game (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199969)

Stop /. redirecting you to it @ least, by adding THIS to your hosts file:

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216.34.181.48 ask.slashdot.org
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Re:Right: Beat them @ their OWN game (4, Insightful)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 9 months ago | (#46200135)

bahahaha HOSTS to the rescue! dude, instead of spamming the lists for the past years, it works much better if you actually provide advice such as this. I will try this. thank you.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (4, Insightful)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | about 9 months ago | (#46199977)

How do you know it's the admins doing that? I can't remember having the ability to see which users mod a given post.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199995)

That's because you're a moron. If you went and fucked yourself, we'd have even more morons running around.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199997)

For the fourth time... keep classic and put beta at the bottom of the page.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1, Offtopic)

iced_773 (857608) | about 9 months ago | (#46200035)

Which they can do, because they're offtopic (and so is this by the way). I for one welcome this practice, as the worst thing to come out of Beta in my opinion is the deluge of +5 comments about it and the subsequent impossibility of finding the on-topic comments I came here to read in the first place.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1, Insightful)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 9 months ago | (#46200213)

Ok, so one off-topic comment about your sig: if you expect the relevant, informative, on-topic comments you regularly read here on slashdot, join in against the new beta. If they decide to just ignore our requests, be sure this place will drastically reduce the quality of the comments. Unless you come here to read the "nigga this", "faggot that", "goatse" trolls that are all too common. Then by all means, support beta.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (2, Interesting)

westlake (615356) | about 9 months ago | (#46200039)

I've noticed that Slashdot admins have been using their unlimited mod points to deep-six anti-Beta posts into moderation oblivion.

Thank god.

Now maybe we can talk about something besides the Beta.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200105)

After a harrowing two or three days, you can finally ignore what's still coming down the pipe.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (5, Funny)

Rostis (797) | about 9 months ago | (#46200149)

Aha, you must be that "audience" I've been hearing about.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200153)

You must be Timothy's personal cock sucker, right?

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (3, Insightful)

ZenMatrix (1299517) | about 9 months ago | (#46200051)

guys seriously I think beta is stupid... but all the anti Beta posts are ruining this site more then that is. I come here more for the comments then the stories since they tend to have a better concept of the story then the poster does.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 9 months ago | (#46200241)

As I said in a post above, if you come for the comments, you should worry they'll mostly disappear after the beta becomes the only available version. I will certainly not use slashdot anymore in that case, and a lot of folks have been expressing the same intention.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (2, Interesting)

williamhb (758070) | about 9 months ago | (#46200089)

While I'd long suspected that Slashdot comments were becoming the community for the irretrievably disgruntled to vote up each other's misanthropy, it's a bit anticlimactic that the community's last and most vehement rant is not about privacy, nor those old favourites "the evils of proprietary software", "the terrible patent system", or "if Microsoft did something today, it must be wrong", but the much more disappointing "how dare the website owners redesign their UI".

And so they marched on Washington, pickets waved in the air, and cries of anger filling the wind, not at the government's policies, nor at its governance of the economy, nor at its honesty or care for the most vulnerable, but at the inferior design of its latest brochure.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (3, Insightful)

Kremmy (793693) | about 9 months ago | (#46200145)

Not really about the UI redesign, but rather a number of issues relating to it, such as the fact that they've been attempting to fast track the roll-out of the beta. Fast tracking the roll out of an incomplete UI redesign that lacks core functionality, blindly claiming it's an improvement to the degree of actively replacing the production system. This is not how you create a product, this is how you DESTROY a product.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200229)

and if you would consider the collective wisdom gained by the mass of slashdot commentors from tens of thousands of man-years of rolling out and supporting any number of software products (failed and successful), then there may be some reason to add weight to their opinion.

not the useless telephone sanitizers that you seem to be describing

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 9 months ago | (#46200345)

Whenever I can, I take the opportunity to raise awareness to the initiative to limit the influence of money in politics: http://www.wolf-pac.com/ [wolf-pac.com]
As a foreigner (from an American point of view) that's what I'm able to do. You US citizens should go at least one step further, and contact your representatives, or at least sign the petition, or support the movement with money.

So I partly agree with you. Regular politics impact your everyday in a thousand ways, but usually the complexity of the issues hinder choosing a course of action, and frequently requires investing a lot of time. But complaining about beta is much more clear cut... what's being proposed does not offer any value, on the contrary. And it doesn't take much time to voice your opinion here. In an analogous, political case, take the Keystone Pipeline... it seems pretty much everybody sees that it has a lot of corruption and environmental risk (risk? I would say most certain negative impact, given the other pipeline already in use), but how can you make your voice be heard in order to stop the thing?

But yes, you should take action in both cases.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1, Offtopic)

Cito (1725214) | about 9 months ago | (#46200107)

Fuck Beta

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200217)

Fuck Beta and F_Jackie.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200127)

I didn't have strong feelings when I first saw it and I felt like I should reserve judgement until I had used it more.

I did however think to myself about the typical "I hate change" crowd that seems to permeate every community, ever. When I thought about the Slashdot community I imagined the villagers rioting and I wasn't disappointed. I just have a picture in my head of RMS screaming at his computer because he won't be able to view the website as easily in emacs anymore.

Beta didn't ruin Slashdot, people complaining about the beta ruined Slashdot. The current design sucks and frankly I'd be into just replacing it all with craigslist-style minimalism. Slashdot is a text and link site and stable-Slashdot is a horrible text and link viewer.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200255)

Can't hear you, Tim. Just like you you can't hear us.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (4, Insightful)

tibman (623933) | about 9 months ago | (#46200307)

Sounds like victim blaming. "Beta didn't do it. You did it by not accepting Beta." There is always resistance to change. But the change has to at least bring something better to the table. Not a reduction in functionality. If the villagers didn't riot and just left quietly instead then you would still be left wanting better comments.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200327)

Since your suggestions are asinine, why not go fuck yourself with Timothy's big giant BETA?

Give Me Mod Points Slashdot, I fight for the Users (-1, Troll)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 9 months ago | (#46200203)

Slashdot, if you give me unlimited mod points I swear I sill spend the next week checking Slashdot every few minutes and modding every Beta Asshole poster down to -5. These people need to go away. They are a tiny minority that is screwing up an otherwise pleasant SlashDot.

Either that or just drop Beta into production, so the whiny little babies will either run away or drift off when changes become final as such people always do.

Posting from Beta.

Re: Give Me Mod Points Slashdot, I fight for the U (5, Insightful)

Dzimas (547818) | about 9 months ago | (#46200283)

The beta design simply doesn't have the information density of the production version. Instead of scanning for interesting comments, I scroll until I get sick of scrolling and then back out to the next thread. This isn't a situation in which users are grumbling because they don't like change; it's an instance where the redesign has a dramatic negative effect on the UX. That's a potential site killer.

Re:Give Me Mod Points Slashdot, I fight for the Us (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200297)

Troll, liar - go away, far, far away.

Re:Give Me Mod Points Slashdot, I fight for the Us (1)

enrgeeman (867240) | about 9 months ago | (#46200309)

should be pretty easy. next week is the full boycott, so there shouldn't be many, if any, fuck beta comments to have to mod.

Re:Give Me Mod Points Slashdot, I fight for the Us (1)

unitron (5733) | about 9 months ago | (#46200391)

We aren't going to be here between the 10th and the 17th.

That's the Week of Slashcott.

We *are* the users, and we're fighting for ourselves (and, believe it or not, you, as well)

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1, Insightful)

CTU (1844100) | about 9 months ago | (#46200215)

If I had mod points I might use one to mod down the whining about the beta. It is to much, take it to some place that means anything or STFU. Not like posting in the news will change or fix anything

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (1, Interesting)

manquer (1950350) | about 9 months ago | (#46200419)

i agree.. i did that last 2 times i got them.. You know what sucks bigger than beta? people constantly whining about them.. It is making the site unreadable worse than beta is doing..

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200243)

Ever notices how the Slashdot poll turned more or less into a way to create a complete profile of its userbase.

Where are you working (loudness of workplace poll)
How much money do you have (what console buy poll)
How man people live in your home (lock pc question poll)

etc. pp.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (2, Informative)

Bite The Pillow (3087109) | about 9 months ago | (#46200305)

I've been moderating them off-topic, and I'm no admin. We were supposed to have a day of protest, then there was the boycott I think for next week. There is zero point in continuing this childish nonsense.
Yay, sticking it to the man, we feel awesome about ourselves, now start acting like people care about the community instead of pissing on it.

Re:Works for Slashdot as well... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200393)

What a bunch of bullshit coming from a fucking 3 MILLION UID user...

Dungeon Keeper is for stupid people (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199905)

Anyone who would pay money for in game stuff in dungeon keeper is a retard anyway. They aren't going to be reading this story on Slashdot , at least not non-beta.

Extra apostrophes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199907)

should go into a black hole as well, with their author right behind. Really, is it that difficult to understand that it's means IT IS?

Re:Extra apostrophes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199923)

Apostrophe s changes the word into a possessive, right? So EA's would be correct in the context of the headline?

Re:Extra apostrophes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199951)

You didn't even read my second sentence. I think you just read the first word of the title of the post, my first sentence and immediately jumped to an utterly wrong conclusion. Are you still here? Look at this:

" all 5 star ratings are routed to the Google Play store where it's rating is currently 4.3 out of 5"

So let me explain this mind-boggling, quantum physics-level puzzle: possessive pronouns like ITS, HERS, HIS and THEIRS are ALREADY possessive!

(Cue Thus Spake Zarathustra)

Re: Extra apostrophes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200011)

"Its" is not a word. "It's" is a contraction for "it is" or "it has."
Also, before you point me to some online dictionary, I do not care.

Re: Extra apostrophes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200029)

Thanks for making me smile. I just realized it's impossible for anyone who can spell "contraction" to really believe what you wrote.

You got me!

But just for fun, indulge me: if "its" isn't a word, and it's is a contraction for "it is", then the sentence

"all 5 star ratings are routed to the Google Play store where it's rating is currently 4.3 out of 5"

actually says

"all 5 star ratings are routed to the Google Play store where it is rating is currently 4.3 out of 5"

and this is correct as far as you're concerned because "its" isn't a word? And don't forget, I didn't link you to a dictionary, I'm just using YOUR logic here.

So? What's the conclusion?

Re: Extra apostrophes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200349)

The conclusion is that you fell for my bullshit hook, line and sinker. All I had to do is type two sentences and you go nuts.
That post was my way of saying "Fuck beta."
I am only here to troll until they give up on beta :(

Re: Extra apostrophes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200377)

I pretty much acknowledged that I saw your hook... Did you really get me or am I just playing along???

Re: Extra apostrophes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200071)

"Its" is not a word.

You're an idiot. "Its" is a word. It's a fact. Its meaning is clear.

"It's" is a contraction for "it is" or "it has."

True, so "where it's rating is currently 4.3 out of 5" would mean "where it is rating is currently 4.3 out of 5" or "where it has rating is currently 4.3 out of 5". Do you see the problem with those sentences?

The correct sentence

"where its rating is currently 4.3 out of 5" on the other hand means "where the rating belonging to it is currently 4.3 out of 5".

Also, before you point me to some online dictionary, I do not care.

No, FSM forbid you actually learned something...

re:extra apostrophes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200059)

fucking grammar Nazi, next you'll remind me to use the shift key...

Re:Extra apostrophes (2)

jc42 (318812) | about 9 months ago | (#46200091)

Actually, what's going on here is best explained by Dave Barry's observation that, in modern American English, the main use of the apostrophe is to warn the reader that there's an "s" coming up soon.

Once you understand that change in American orthography, it all becomes clear ...

Re:Extra apostrophes (2)

Maxx169 (920414) | about 9 months ago | (#46200403)

If Dave Barry heard you say that he'd roll over in his grave (assuming he is dead), but I'd hazard a guess that he shan't, because what're the odds he'll be paying enough attention - at least, that is what I've always said.

Re:Extra apostrophes (2)

fplatten (588351) | about 9 months ago | (#46199945)

You're right, my bad, I rushed the submission. Should have also included some links about all the rating manipulation going on at eBay, Amazon, and Yelp. Has me wondering if there is any place were ratings are still useful. Maybe GoodReads, but that may just be ignorance on my part.

Re:Extra apostrophes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199965)

OK then I take it back, I don't want you to go into a black hole. Maybe a neutron star, or a brown dwarf.

Re:Extra apostrophes (3, Informative)

dhaines (323241) | about 9 months ago | (#46200063)

No idea if Goodreads ratings are reliable or not, but if you don't trust Amazon [npr.org] ...

Re:Extra apostrophes (0)

fplatten (588351) | about 9 months ago | (#46200161)

Wow, I guess it's my ignorance. Haven't seen a movie rating on Amazon Prime below 4 stars ever. Also, I don't understand why Amazon recommends all the previous novels when you are looking at the last novel of a series. Seems a waste, especially if I've already bought the book. Amazon should be much smarter. Looks like they may recognize that with the Goodreads purchase.

I can't wait for the next EA game... (5, Funny)

znanue (2782675) | about 9 months ago | (#46199913)

I hear it's going to be called "Dungeon Keeper Beta".

Slashdot takes advise from EA (3, Insightful)

Chad Smith (3448823) | about 9 months ago | (#46199925)

Instead of a black hole you get routed to 'WE HEAR YOU We did tell you we wanted feedback. Here's our response.' http://meta.slashdot.org/story... [slashdot.org]

Re:Slashdot takes advise from EA (4, Insightful)

techno-vampire (666512) | about 9 months ago | (#46200237)

Yes. Clearly their attitude is, "We wanted feedback. We hear you, but we don't care. We're going to make Slashdot beta the only interface whether anybody likes it or not." And, the day that happens is the day I stop following Slashdot.

o.O (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199927)

Why on earth is google allowing anyone to submit ratings via any API other than presenting a pre-defined google-made GUI, that does all of the transmission itself, without interacting with the developer's code at all?

No rating API (5, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 9 months ago | (#46200037)

Why on earth is google allowing anyone to submit ratings via any API

It's not. From the article:

Thus the only way to give the game something other than full marks is to say you'll award it five stars, then actually rate it less when taken to the marketplace.

In other words, the 5 Stars button goes to the app's page in Google Play Store, and the 1-4 Stars button goes to the "leave feedback" screen. A player can leave a lower rating by tapping 5 Stars, waiting for the Play page to open, and tapping a lower star rating.

True (1)

Sable Drakon (831800) | about 9 months ago | (#46200101)

But how many people are going to be sneaky enough to figure that one out? From the look of it, not many.

Re:True (2)

hey! (33014) | about 9 months ago | (#46200181)

Well, it *is* a game. What some people would call a sleazy marketing trick, others would call innovative gameplay.

Re:True (1)

Sable Drakon (831800) | about 9 months ago | (#46200183)

But rating a game isn't part of the gameplay. In the end, it is a pretty sleazy marketing trick and I'm hoping EA gets slapped around for it.

Re:True (1)

maynard (3337) | about 9 months ago | (#46200195)

Na. It's a sleazy marketing trick. 'Innovative gameplay' in this context is a phrase to be combined with 'conflict of interest'.

Re: o.O (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200041)

Because 'open'....
Neckbeards would complain it's the end of the world cause walled garden and stuff.

Joking aside. Google software is a mess. All of it. Always been, always will be. They do everything, but in a permanent state of quasi-beta. No focus at all.

Re: o.O (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200249)

Because 'open'....
Neckbeards would complain it's the end of the world cause walled garden and stuff.

Joking aside. Google software is a mess. All of it. Always been, always will be. They do everything, but in a permanent state of quasi-beta. No focus at all.

Tell me about it. Google is such a failure of a company. I hear that Larry Page is living in a cardboard box in San Francisco.

#fuckbeta (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46199933)

#fuckbeta

Fraud? (4, Insightful)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | about 9 months ago | (#46199949)

Is this not criminal misrepresentation of their product?

Re:Fraud? (5, Interesting)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | about 9 months ago | (#46199955)

Actually, since EA is publicly traded, couldn't this count as a material misrepresentation to the stock market?

Re:Fraud? (4, Interesting)

Mitreya (579078) | about 9 months ago | (#46200125)

Actually, since EA is publicly traded, couldn't this count as a material misrepresentation to the stock market?

Well, it is still possible to leave a lower rating (hence the average is below 5), you just need to edit the initial 5-star rating. So I imagine they have a defense even if someone tries to pursue that issue

Why can the rating be hijacked, anyway? I am surprised it took so long for someone entrepreneurial to notice that bad ratings can be intercepted to skew the results.

Re:Fraud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200131)

Quick, who is a stockholder? Time to prepare a filling.

Re:Fraud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200151)

Is this not criminal misrepresentation of their product?

Maybe, but the rating is at Google Play, not on an EA site. If anyone is misrepresenting the product, it's Google.

You can keep hating (1)

niw3 (1029008) | about 9 months ago | (#46199961)

walled gardens of others

Fun Up Comment Kancer Blah Eh Tanks Ah (1, Offtopic)

Comsn (686413) | about 9 months ago | (#46199979)

For ea to do this is silly.
Uf course no one cares about EA anymore.
Cant stop talking about slash.dot
Kause they decided to go dig!v4
But why?
Eh thinks its a conspiracy to kill internet comments
That seems to be what disqus is doing
And hb gary with its astroturfing.

havent posted in 6 years, good bye my old friend slas.hdot.

Just let the giant die peacefully (1)

atari2600a (1892574) | about 9 months ago | (#46200009)

They all scratch & fight from being scared of what they don't understand just before they accept death as the only option.

not much different than ebayers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200013)

begging people to leave perfect feedback or contact them instead to "clear up" any issues so that they do leave that perfect feedback... only difference here is ea has worked it to kinda force the issue.

Yet another reason.. (5, Insightful)

Sable Drakon (831800) | about 9 months ago | (#46200049)

Never rate an app from within the app itself. We all know it's super convienent, but at the same time it's subject to this kind of trickery.

Nervy... (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 9 months ago | (#46200061)

I'm hardly surprised that EA is doing something mendacious and evil; but it's a trifle gutsy to overtly game Google's rating system. Google is a company whose entire value consists of the ability to construct ranked lists well enough that users will endure ads to receive those lists. It may or may not be a safe assumption that they are desperate enough for EA's shovelware mobile ports to let this sort of manipulation go unanswered.

It's all the same (4, Insightful)

stoploss (2842505) | about 9 months ago | (#46200231)

I'm hardly surprised that EA is doing something mendacious and evil; but it's a trifle gutsy to overtly game Google's rating system.

Meh, one good coercive scam deserves another. I just checked my Google Play app and attempted to rate an app (never had tried before). Lo and behold, rating apps requires Google Plus and all ratings will be linked to one's public profile.

No thanks. EA and Google deserve each other.

Oh, and Dice belongs with them for their plans to destroy this community^Waudience.

Re:It's all the same (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 9 months ago | (#46200381)

Oh, I'm hardly crying for poor, poor, little Google (and every time they start shoving Google Plus into one of their services that I formerly liked, that's one less reason to even put up with them), it just strikes me that pulling out your slimey-SEO act might not be the wisest of actions when facing a company that has a more or less existential dislike of such things.

Uh, can we say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200069)

Can we say "fraud"?? I knew you could!

Makes sense (0)

HalAtWork (926717) | about 9 months ago | (#46200079)

They don't have any obligation to post reviews that were emailed to them. Of course they're going to filter them and put up the ones that are preferred. If you want your comment to show up, rate it through the Google Play store, not by emailing EA.

Re:Makes sense (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200265)

You obviously didn't even bother reading the summary. Ratings less than a 4 are automatically emailed, ratings of a 5 go to the google play store. Why you are modded up is a mystery.

Re:Makes sense (2)

MindStalker (22827) | about 9 months ago | (#46200335)

The game itself is providing an interface to rate the game. If you tell it you are going to rate the game a 4 it has you send an email. If you tell it you are going to rate the game a 5, it sends you to the play store, where you can then rate it however you like.

Don't use in-app rating. Go to google play store and rate the game however you want.

Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (-1)

macraig (621737) | about 9 months ago | (#46200109)

The motivation for this differentiation *could* be evil, but it could also be well-intentioned: what if those reviews critical of at least part of the game are going straight to the QA or development team, rather than public relations?

Lacking any real information about said motivation, the article and summary have cynically leapt to the worst possible conclusion. Way to muck the rake, guys.

Re:Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about 9 months ago | (#46200185)

Lacking any real information about said motivation, the article and summary have cynically leapt to the worst possible conclusion. Way to muck the rake, guys.

The idiom would be "rake the muck." And it's EA we're talking about. It's not cynicism when it's true. It's very hard to assume the worst about EA and be wrong. EA works hard to seek the nadir of all customer relations.

Re:Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (1)

macraig (621737) | about 9 months ago | (#46200251)

I know what is the usual ordering of the words in the idiom. License literary what I did is called.

Re:Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200369)

You may wish to review the definition of cynicism. The truthfulness of the motivations matters not to your inclination to believing them to be self-serving. Perhaps you were thinking of paranoia.

Re:Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (1)

fplatten (588351) | about 9 months ago | (#46200201)

I wouldn't be so cynical if they had forwarded those ratings on to Google Play so people browsing the store for a good game had a more accurate rating of the game before they installed it and started playing it for themselves, discovered it was a bad game and then the cycle repeats thousands of times. Seems to me EA is the cynical bastard here.

Re:Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (1)

macraig (621737) | about 9 months ago | (#46200267)

Forwarded on [i]as well[/i]? Yeah, I'd agree that should have been done.

Re:Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (5, Insightful)

Xeno man (1614779) | about 9 months ago | (#46200313)

Except that it is not well intentioned. What they are doing is per-filtering people and anyone that says they would rate 5, they direct them to the rating site. Anyone that does not want to rate 5 they direct away from the rating site. Regardless what they may or may not do with user feed back, they are still artificially inflating their games score by hiding the rating site from anyone that doesn't want to give full ratings.

Re:Disingenuous and manipulative summary, article (1)

the_B0fh (208483) | about 9 months ago | (#46200401)

Wow. What an apologist. Even if there is no evil motivations, simply doing this is unethical.

What is this post about? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200139)

Seriously, I've been reading this submission over a couple of times now and I still don't understand any of it. It lacks all context...

Re:What is this post about? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200269)

If you rate this game within the game, EA gets it and has to forward it on to Google play store. If the rating is 1-4 EA doesn't forward it on to the Play store, but if it is a 5 they do forward on the rating. Its apparantly a bad game, but because of this trick it is still rated a 4.5, which is possible by people rating it lower directly on Google Play where EA can't prevent it from going on.

At least that is what I am getting from reading it.

Fuck beta (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200179)

Fuck beta - more original? How about FUCK BETA TWICE WITH A RUSTY 3U SERVER NODE!

easy technical solution... (2)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | about 9 months ago | (#46200189)

I'm sure Google keeps the referrer information for URLs that hit the Play store. Just throw out all the ratings that come through the game.

What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200329)

Dungeon keeper?

Would that be the 1997 17 year old original version? Or dungeon keeper 2 the 1999 15 year old version?

Why is that shit even still listed ANYWHERE... Yeah it was a good game... But it's so ancient now. And was buggy as fuck and not well supported to begin with.

Oh... right. EA games...
Yeah. They're going to win worst company for a 3rd year i think.
Most companys in the running are simply incompetent or badly run clueless bureaucracy.

EA games however actively finds new and different ways to fuckup completely. That's why EA games deserves to win worst company again.

Don't forget to vote.

Re:What? (5, Interesting)

pellik (193063) | about 9 months ago | (#46200387)

Neither. It's the super-paywall version where every tile you want to build takes 24 hours unless you pay them $2 PER TILE.

So the question is: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200405)

... the '5 Stars' button goes to the app's page in Google Play Store, and the '1-4 Stars' button goes to the "leave feedback" screen.

So the question becomes "Can anyone view the 'feedback' replies"? Not that it matters, tech businesses have been censoring their feedback replies for the last decade. EA has just extended this censorship to a third party.

Love the excuse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46200407)

"homophobic right wing bloggers" usually that is a get out of jail card for Democrats that always work in any situation, guess that dose not work on gamers. lol

How many people buy games based only on ratings and not on what people write about the game anyway? At least for any $50+ game. Anything $15 or less I just look to see if it seems fun and ignore ratings.

Slice of the pie... (1)

KitFox (712780) | about 9 months ago | (#46200417)

Oddly, people want Google to do something about this. Unfortunately, some forget that Google gets a percentage of in-app purchases as well, so as long as the app is on the front page of the store and highly rated and can possibly get more eyes into the app being told to "Buy! Spend!", the more likely Google is to reap benefit from it.

Awful Summary (0)

dmomo (256005) | about 9 months ago | (#46200425)

What ratings system? What do you mean by "routing"? I know. RTFA. But come on, a summary should at least... well you know summarize.

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