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BioWare Announces Dragon Age Inquisition For October 7th

Soulskill posted about 8 months ago | from the nobody-expects-the-dragonish-inquisition dept.

Role Playing (Games) 79

An anonymous reader writes "Today BioWare announced a new game in its popular Dragon Age RPG series titled Inquisition. The game will follow the story of an Inquisitor trying to rally the world against the magic-laden forces spewing from rifts opening to another place. The game's creative director, Mike Laidlaw, says players will be able to watch the world descend into chaos, and then deal with the burdens of power as they rally forces in opposition. BioWare is also taking the opportunity to fix all of the things they broke in Dragon Age 2: 'Top-down tactical view is back. Playable races are back. The game seems to have more of an emphasis on challenge thanks to non-regenerative health.' The game will launch on October 7th for the PC, PS3/4, and Xbox 360/One."

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Wow (0, Flamebait)

coId fiord (3612065) | about 8 months ago | (#46820145)

More DRM-infested garbage from EA? Who cares.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820243)

Nice trolling.

Dragon age: Origins went triple platinum, and while DA2 wasn't well received, it's widely known among the fans that DA:I has been worked on tirelessly by Bioware to bring it back to the epic fantasy origins was - expectations are high, and Bioware is taking it seriously - this is easily going to be one of the biggest game releases this year.

So who cares? Millions.

Re:Wow (-1, Flamebait)

coId fiord (3612065) | about 8 months ago | (#46820251)

So who cares? Millions.

These "millions" you refer to aren't really qualified as "people". They may eat, breathe, work, and vote, but they're not really worthy of such an honorable title.

Re:Wow (3, Insightful)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46820263)

Those people are lacking principles. DRM is intolerable to anyone with a brain.

Re:Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820279)

I'm sure that's why Steam and PSN are some of biggest gaming distribution platforms then - both DRM platforms, both massively popular - in fact Steam is the largest digital distributor of games on the planet and has much the same DRM as EA's origin, apples app/itunes stores, etc (installation to authorized computers only, optional online-only DRM for games, ability to put one or all of your games into 'playable offline').

I'm sure that's why some of the largest games in their genres are also online-only DRM (Starcraft 2 - the largest traditional RTS at present, World of Warcraft - still the largest MMO despite losing more than half it's subscriber base, the modern CoD games - also DRM ridden, and are some of the most popular FPS games to date)

Get real, DRM is completely tolerable - the numbers and money speak for themselves - you're just ignorant or senile.

Re:Wow (1)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46824271)

Get real, DRM is completely tolerable - the numbers and money speak for themselves - you're just ignorant or senile.

DRM is intolerable *to anyone with a brain*. Appealing to popularity will not save you. Most gamers are unprincipled little wimps who will take any abuse these scumbag corporations, who think of them all as 'pirates', throw forth, simply because they want their precious "entertainment." They've never once known what it's like to have principles.

Digital restrictions management is disgusting and tries to take control of your computing from you, which is absolutely intolerable to those with brains and principles. If you say otherwise, you're admitting that you lack some very important things.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820295)

How do you suggest these Bioware stop everyone just downloading their game?

Because although a lot of /.ers complain about DRM and wanting everything to be free, these games actually cost A LOT of money to make. You can't hate a company for at least trying to break even.

Pay what you want wouldn't work. I know that I and most people I know would pay the minimum. If the there was a system for 'tipping' developers tehn I and most people i know would probably not tip and see it as a free game.

Re:Wow (2)

loonycyborg (1262242) | about 8 months ago | (#46821799)

DRM is what actually makes the service better for people who choose to pirate. If you buy DRM'd official cd's you have to deal with DRM bugs and just waste time on making it work while a torrent with cracked version from tbp relieves you from those hassles. DRM only punishes people who choose to donate money to game-makers by buying games.

Re:Wow (2)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46824249)

How do you suggest these Bioware stop everyone just downloading their game?

It is unjustifiable to unleash DRM against people just to stop the copyright infringement bogeyman. Furthermore, how does GoG do it? They don't. They don't treat their potential customers like scum and trust them to buy the games. DRM almost always fails to stop anyone but normal people, anyway, and when it doesn't, it's so horribly draconian (e.g. Diablo 3) that the game is worthless.

Because although a lot of /.ers complain about DRM and wanting everything to be free, these games actually cost A LOT of money to make. You can't hate a company for at least trying to break even.

Incorrect. I can hate a company for trying to make money through immoral means. Digital restrictions management, that which attempts to take control of your computing from you, is immoral.

It's hard to believe so many pieces of ignorant trash are still around. How is it that there are still fools like you repeating myths about DRM that were repeated so many times in the past, and subsequently debunked?

Re:Wow (1)

Beamboom (2692671) | about 8 months ago | (#46820857)

Dare I ask why "DRM is intolerable to anyone with a brain"? It's a popular opinion, but I have always failed to see why. As a legal gamer who pay for my games I experience no problems with services like Steam whatsoever. In fact I find the service to be of great value. I never have to worry about keeping/maintaining physical discs for later install, no worries about media format changing or anything like that. I got my Steam account, and thus all my games available for all my PCs I've ever bought and ever will buy. Period. How can this be a bad thing?

Re:Wow (1)

spark89 (3569393) | about 8 months ago | (#46821137)

Totally agree with you, but Steam is way more better then the Origin, and Valve is more customer-friendly than EA.

Re:Wow (1)

Beamboom (2692671) | about 8 months ago | (#46821165)

Aha - but then the topic here is the Origin service and not DRM per se. Still, there *are* many out there who express the opinion of the above posters in this thread - and I genuinely wonder why.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46821311)

When steam goes out of business, how do you play your games?
Can you sell the games you bought? (not sure, but not always a given with DRM)

Re:Wow (1)

master_kaos (1027308) | about 8 months ago | (#46822991)

Seriously? Steam rakes in hundred of millions of not billions a year. They are not going anywhere soon. If in 30 years that changes, yes I guess you might be boned but honestly, would you REALLLY give a shit about 30 year old games that probably won't even work on windows 18? It isn't like they are just going to drop off the face of the planet one day, you will see it coming at which point you will stop buying games from them.

Re:Wow (2)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46824193)

Yes, I still play very old games on old equipment. Some of us do care about things like ownership and control.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46826995)

The vast majority of us don't care about 30 year old games. Get over it idiot.

Re:Wow (1)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46827547)

I don't care what the vast majority of you imbeciles care about. I care about morality and being able to control what I own (and being able to own things, of course).

Re:Wow (2)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46824187)

It's a popular opinion, but I have always failed to see why.

Because it is attempt by scumbag companies to control your computing.

As a legal gamer who pay for my games I experience no problems with services like Steam whatsoever.

You seem to be presuming that DRM only affects people who don't get the game from authorized channels, but even Steam sometimes affects 'innocents.'

But that's besides the point. I'm someone who wants full control over my computer, so of course DRM is going to be intolerable to me.

I never have to worry about keeping/maintaining physical discs for later install, no worries about media format changing or anything like that.

Guess what? Services like GoG exist, and they don't use DRM.

Steam games don't always use DRM, though, but since it supports a DRM scheme (Steamworks, I think it's called), I cannot support that company.

I forgo many convenient things simply because I stick by my principles.

Re:Wow (1)

JosKarith (757063) | about 8 months ago | (#46821257)

"DRM is intolerable to anyone with a brain."
Mass media is intolerable to anyone with a brain.
Taxation is intolerable to anyone with a brain.
Globalised farming is intolerable to anyone with a brain.
Fossil fuel use is intolerable to anyone with a brain.
Absolutist statements like yours sound all well and good, but just like the other examples I've just quoted DRM is a thing that people seem to be prepared to tolerate for the sake of an easy life. I'm really not a fan of DRM but it's a system that games manufacturers have developed in response to the evolutionary pressure of internet piracy. Until you provide a sufficient counterpressure it will continue to be their optimal strategy so I'd rather hear solutions than soundbytes if that's okay with you.

Re:Wow (1)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46824113)

Absolutist statements like yours sound all well and good

And in this case, it is all well and good. If you accept scumbag companies using digital restrictions management against you in an effort to control you, then you're a fool.

but it's a system that games manufacturers have developed in response to the evolutionary pressure of internet piracy.

Even if that were true, that does not justify it. Furthermore, it's more about control than it is about 'piracy' (a mere propaganda term).

Until you provide a sufficient counterpressure it will continue to be their optimal strategy so I'd rather hear solutions than soundbytes if that's okay with you.

Solution: Don't use DRM.

Re:Wow (1)

Kjella (173770) | about 8 months ago | (#46821929)

Or maybe you just have a pack rat obsession with owning things while the rest of us as just looking to get some entertainment. I "buy" a non-transferrable license to a DRM-locked online-tied sandbox, even a DVD which also has DRM is more liberal as I can sell, lend, play anywhere without anyone's approval or activation but even that one I can't back up or format shift legally as I expect to do with my own property. None of that is an absolute necessity though, what matters if if the value (utility, desire) exceeds the costs (money, inconvenience) and if I am confident that I'll get my money's worth from it before Steam goes under and the service disappears in a puff of smoke I come out ahead. If I desperately want to play it 10+ years down the line I suspect it will be available somehow on GOG (legally), TPB (not so legally) or whatever so it's not a "now or never" situation.

Yes, I get pretty pissed when you abuse DRM to deliver use control like unskippable commercials and region locks, crap that acts more like malware (hello StarForce) and such things but ultimately I am looking to get entertained, it's in the same class as Netflix (subscription), Spotify (subscription) not about having my documents and data trapped in proprietary products with lock-in. Realistically if Steam said all games are now a 5 year lease it'd probably not change my habits at all. If they start acting like asses I always have the option to say here are the letters F and U, I'll be sourcing my entertainment elsewhere from now on. It's not like there's a shortage or anything, particularly since it won't cost me a moral fiber to download games I used to have on Steam off TPB should that ever become necessary.

Re:Wow (1)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46824069)

Or maybe you just have a pack rat obsession with owning things while the rest of us as just looking to get some entertainment.

Or maybe you're just completely lacking principles. I can't imagine why anyone would enjoy not being able to have full control of the computer they bought, and even enjoy having scumbag companies using digital restrictions management to take further control away from them. They'll basically saying that everyone is a 'pirate,' and people should be opposed to such things on principle.

Re:Wow (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 8 months ago | (#46823245)

Those people are lacking principles. DRM is intolerable to anyone with a brain.

Why is it intolerable? My home computer has had "always-on Internet" for 10 years now. People are even forgetting that advertising slogan it's been so long. Assuming non-buggy DRM, occasional Internet outages hardly qualify as an intolerable interruption.

Re:Wow (1)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46824049)

Because it's an attempt to control what I do on my own computer, which is intolerable. Anyone who says otherwise needs to get some principles.

Re:Wow (1)

Arionhawk (1115559) | about 8 months ago | (#46825257)

So, do you not use Windows or OSX then? or any Autodesk or Adobe product that has been paid for? Because they're all locked down with some form of DRM as well.

Re:Wow (1)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 8 months ago | (#46826369)

I don't use those things.

Epic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46821009)

It was the time of an epic struggle , the company was in peril. Millions of jocks cried out in Anguish as the fate Of EA Football was held in the hands of vengeful RPG nerds.

Chose your destiny, Win Glory , Seize the day - Save the CEO'S bonus

Re:Wow (4, Insightful)

ADRA (37398) | about 8 months ago | (#46820791)

Meh, Origin's crap and I haven't played an EA game in over a year because of it. If they release on Steam, I'd consider it.

Re:Wow (1)

spark89 (3569393) | about 8 months ago | (#46821147)

After Battlefield 4 crap I even don't want to hear about EA.

They won't (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46822881)

Steam makes them sell any DLC on steam as well and bioware has stopped selling DLC separately. They've also stopped selling new games as a complete package years after release. Even today if you want DA2 and all the DLC you will spend $5 for the game and $60 for the DLC.

Correction: EA not Bioware (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46822913)

Sorry, typo in above post.

Re:Wow (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 8 months ago | (#46823761)

To me, they seem to be crappy only in their sales. For a while, they were saying things along the lines of "We don't think 'steam sales' are really the way to go. I don't think players really demand that, etc." Which is downright funny, even before they woke up and realized that you can't challenge something as dominant as steam by explicitly offering customers less incentive to join up just by telling them they want it, and had one or two sales.

As far as origin itself in function, I don't really have complaints. I use steam far, far more often, so it's probably just a sampling error, but I've had multiple instances of steam not allowing me to play in offline mode, while this never seems to happen with origin. I would estimate I've had that problem one in two hundred or so times starting up steam, while in the ten or so times I've started up origin, it's done offline mode fine. Some games have required a connection, but not origin. So there's that.

Re:Wow (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 8 months ago | (#46823679)

It's kind of funny sometimes. Like when EA did the humble bundle, essentially giving away medal of honor and some other games that were worth at least a dollar. I installed it, updated it, and later tried booting it up offline.

No go: the basically free game which was three years old needed an online connection, even for single player. You know, to make sure I donated at least a penny to the EFF for the game instead of just pirating it.

Are spawn waves gone? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820195)

Are the enemy spawn waves gone? That's why I stopped playing DA2: having enemies spawn into the middle of my party when I thought I was done fighting and (as such) had expended all my mana was not fun. I liked that I actually knew what was happening in DA:O and had some capacity to plan and deal with it.

Re:Are spawn waves gone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820847)

I strongly doubt it.
They were there in ME2
They were there in ME3
They were there in DA2 .... they're also very annoyingly there in many recent FPS' but that's a different story (still, to those of us that like sniping...)

Re:Are spawn waves gone? (1)

spark89 (3569393) | about 8 months ago | (#46821153)

The DA2 was a total failure.

Re:Are spawn waves gone? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46821249)

From what I read, both the fights and the resource management are going to be a lot more challenging. For one, there won't be as many healing potions and mages can't just spam healing spells as they used to in DA:O. Additionally, creatures inhabit the maps. Giants roam the place and dragons guard their nests and your party can run into them quite unprepared. (Source in german: gamestar.de [gamestar.de]

Having played through DA:O without death of my character on the highest difficulty, I am looking forward to the changes

Re:Are spawn waves gone? (1)

thaylin (555395) | about 8 months ago | (#46821497)

So it wont be set in one craptastic city?

Re:Are spawn waves gone? (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 8 months ago | (#46823347)

What irritated me was the long cooldowns on powers, combined with magical thieves everywhere who attacked out of invisibility then went back invisible, repeat.

Fights devolved into protracted attrition rolls of the dice, where you tried to position non-casters to eat these every-round hyper backstabs until your casters' blasts recycled. Tank could eat two, everyone else a 1-hit 1-round speed bump sacrifice. If they backstabbed a caster, sigh, reload. If one of your blasts didn't hit, or for enough, sigh, reload.

There was no game, just a stupid strategy to repeat until the rolls went your way.

Re:Are spawn waves gone? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 8 months ago | (#46823799)

That shouldn't have been your ONLY problem with two...

Dragon age huh? (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 8 months ago | (#46820299)

I still remember this thing called Dragon Age 2...which really wasn't a dragon age game, but you never really did say you screwed up royally on it there Bioware. In fact, I seem to remember that you never apologized for the cookie cutter layouts, or gutting the game in the first place. We shall wait, but faith has not been restored, especially after ME3's ending.

Re:Dragon age huh? (1)

Anaerin (905998) | about 8 months ago | (#46820507)

They did apologize for it. A few times. They've been showing DA:I around before it was officially announced, and they specifically called out "No more cookie-cutter levels".

EZ Bake (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820537)

Cupcake molds are not an improvement.

Re:Dragon age huh? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 8 months ago | (#46820757)

the cookie cutting wasn't that much of the problem.

it was recycling the same places over and over and over again. that's not cookie cutting. that's just being lazy.

Re:Dragon age huh? (2)

spark89 (3569393) | about 8 months ago | (#46821163)

EA corrupts everything they touch: BioWare, DICE...

Re:Dragon age huh? (1)

Your.Master (1088569) | about 8 months ago | (#46821231)

That's literally what cookie-cutting is. That's what happens when you use a cookie cutter to cut cookies. All the cookie shapes end up the same.

I actually got over that very quickly. Board games are often like that, and I like board games. I couldn't stand the repetitive combat with the continuous enemy respawn. I thought it was a very neat conceit the first time it happened, but I quickly realized that it was *every combat*, regardless of whether it made sense. Also didn't like the bland mechanics and the new fad of "everybody is a spellcaster; the warrior and thief characters just cast from stamina". The story was significantly improved though. DA1 seemed to go out of its way to invent a setting that was as derivative as possible while still counting as new IP.

Re:Dragon age huh? (1)

ifiwereasculptor (1870574) | about 8 months ago | (#46822335)

Yeah, just remeber Mass Effect was just as bad with its cookie-cutting, but since combat was fun and characters were interesting (compare and contrast: Garrus and Wrex versus Anders and... Fenris), it ended up being a good game. DA2 was so easy and repetitive it was painful. It's not what ruined it for me, though. At least not solely. Terrible dialogue, limited control over the poor plot and needless and jarring redesign (the Qunari and Flemeth, for instance) all contributed to a slightly below mediocre experience.

Re:Dragon age huh? (1)

JosKarith (757063) | about 8 months ago | (#46821273)

I wouldn't have minded the re-use of zones so much if they had bothered to blank out the sections they weren't using on that run from the automap. That was the final straw for me - kind of a "See, we're not just re-using sections, we're going so far as to rub it in your face"

Re:Dragon age huh? (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 8 months ago | (#46822123)

Actually they didn't. Going as far as to say that people preferred DA:O, "so we'll probably bring those back." But they defended all their design decisions in DA2.

Re:Dragon age huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820755)

um, try playing Baldur's Gate 2 again.. you'll learn that your adventure can continue in Neverwinter Nights...

Hmm (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820303)

Try...

DRM infested great game created by a company that is unfortunately at the mercy of EA.

Don't get me wrong, I believe you are probably right about the DRM infested bit, and I'm personally of the opinion that EA blows ass in general.

But despite the mistakes they've made in the past, I still generally regard Bioware as a company that creates excellent video games, and as such, the announcement of Dragon Age 3 to me isn't something to snort derisively at, but something to look forward to with a bit of wariness included for good measure.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46822153)

I'm not looking forward to it. Played Mass Effect 1 & 2. Never played ME3 because of EA and their decision to make money by fucking-the-customer-up-the-ass. Played Dragon Age. Avoided DA2 because everyone I listen to said it was shit. Not playing DA3, because of EA. Really, no matter how good the cake, no one wants to eat it if it's covered in dog shit.

Ignoring EA for a moment (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820479)

Yes yes, most of us are going to pirate the crap out of it, many of us even having bought it that same day, but let's think about what the new Dragon Age really is promising.

Important, burdensome decisions (like what color of explosion you want at the very end), Inquisitor.

The weight of (small squad) command (in a videogame with plenty of healing and recuperation options - even if your health isn't regenerating like a shield system anymore) Inquisitor.

A colorful cast (okay that one we have to give them, with the number of colors a computer can process nowadays their shades will indeed be legion) Inquisitor

Everybody calling you Inquisitor. Possibly even your own mother. And brother. And children (not that they'll have children if there's any chance any of us might find a way to accidentally catch them in an AoE). Has anyone told them yet just how critically acclaimed little children would be as combat summons yet Inquisitor?

Now with heterosexuality (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820683)

I wonder if they will risk bringing heterosexuality back in this version?

Re:Now with heterosexuality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820879)

Woah there. Let's not get all homophobic.
If people different genders kiss on screen, that's an attack on homosexuality, not some misguided show of love between two consenting adults!

In all seriousness though; I may like other men in a sexual fashion, but that game was full of faggots.

Re:Now with heterosexuality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46821043)

your only mad because the females in the game got more pussy than you did

Eye candy (2)

Iamthecheese (1264298) | about 8 months ago | (#46820789)

The characters look great and the tactics compelling but there's one important question the preview didn't even try to address: Is the gameplay as carefully balanced and the world at least as immersive, large, and interesting as Skyrim plus expansions? No amount of eye candy can make up for weak gameplay mechanics or a small world. Is the dialogue matched to gameplay? Is it matched to the gamer's style? Is it close enough to bug free that immersion isn't lost? Is the mechanic for buying and selling goods balanced? Does the game support all possible playing styles without falling apart in some way? Is the AI at least decent?

Re:Eye candy (1)

tommeke100 (755660) | about 8 months ago | (#46821425)

There are gameplay youtube clips as well.

Re:Eye candy (1)

Yosho (135835) | about 8 months ago | (#46822111)

as carefully balanced ... as Skyrim

That's not really a very high bar right there. Invest a little bit in stealth, archery, alchemy, or blacksmithing, and you can easily break the game.

Is it close enough to bug free that immersion isn't lost?

Actually, are you sure you played the same Skyrim as everybody else?

Re:Eye candy (1)

Dutch Gun (899105) | about 8 months ago | (#46830729)

as carefully balanced ... as Skyrim

That's not really a very high bar right there. Invest a little bit in stealth, archery, alchemy, or blacksmithing, and you can easily break the game.

Is it close enough to bug free that immersion isn't lost?

Actually, are you sure you played the same Skyrim as everybody else?

I tend to give Skyrim a pass on some of those balance issues because there's about a million ways to play the game, so it's likely that someone will find a golden path or two. I don't recall the game being quite as easy to break as you make it out to be, but then, I didn't actively seek out those methods, and just had myself a few hundred hours of fun. In a sandbox type game, if you really want to ruin your own fun by breaking the game with obscure tricks and mechanics, it's on your head. I was much more disappointed in Oblivion, where you could literally break the game mechanics simply by not leveling up, and with it's retarded scaling mechanics which sort of slapped you in the face. I'm a tad less forgiving about the sheer number of bugs in the game, but again, the game is so damn ambitious, it's hard not to be a bit lenient there as well. They certainly deserved to be called out for releasing a flat-out broken PS3 port, though.

Regarding Bioware... After the lame ME3 ending, the disappointments of the Dragon Age franchise, and the simple fact that they're beholden to EA... Honestly, I just don't have a lot of hope that they'll be able to bounce back. It's too bad, but the probably outcome is a slow spiral into mediocrity, and then eventual dissolution of the company itself after the cream of the company has already fled to more promising jobs (the founders have already fled). That's been such a continual pattern by companies EA has acquired over the years, it's a wonder to me that people still believe it won't happen to the next company they swallow up.

Re:Eye candy (1)

ausekilis (1513635) | about 8 months ago | (#46822297)

All good questions, but many are still premature. Remember this is due to be released in October, which means going gold sometime ~6 weeks prior (or something like that). They'd have to have things wrapped up in August, and we're in April. Plenty of time for a death march. This is all my speculation.

Is the gameplay as carefully balanced and the world at least as immersive, large, and interesting as Skyrim plus expansions?

I doubt they could do much about world size now, being so late in development. Immersion depends entirely on the players suspension of disbeleif. Some people find the old-school Thief games incredibly immersive, I just found them to be a pain in the ass. All it takes is one awkward NPC statement to break some people out of it. Gamers are incredibly fickle that way.

No amount of eye candy can make up for weak gameplay mechanics or a small world. Is the dialogue matched to gameplay?

Well said, eye candy can't make up for crap gameplay. Just look at DNF (sort of), or any of the free to play chinese MMOs. I would bet the dialogue has already been recorded, any "matching" is probably being worked on now.

Is it matched to the gamer's style?

I doubt we'll see something like "That was awesome how you did that triple backflip off that boulder and stabbed two guys in the back." The number of things a player can do is just too large to enumerate every response. I bet the most we'll see is "good job".

Is it close enough to bug free that immersion isn't lost?

It's still in what I'd guess is a beta. That's a question come October.

Is the mechanic for buying and selling goods balanced?

Another question for October.

Does the game support all possible playing styles without falling apart in some way?

I doubt any game could effectively do this. The number of possible styles is just too large, there's any number of variations of Rambo-ing, sniping, fist fighting, etc...
If it's worth it's salt, you'll have to come up with the appropriate counter to whatever you're facing.

Is the AI at least decent?

Which part of A.I.? That encompasses movement, facial expressions of NPCs, weapon choices of enemies, motion of enemies, tactics of enemies, weapon behaviors (i.e. jamming or inaccuracy), tactics of allies...

I'm assuming you mean the tactics of enemies. Looking at gamasutra's articles (thinking the Uncharted A.I. scripting engine), they still have plenty of time to refine it. Other things, such as hiding behind vs inside a rock, may be harder to find and fix.

Re:Eye candy (1)

dkman (863999) | about 8 months ago | (#46824077)

It doesn't need to be bigger than Skyrim. It needs to be in the vein of DA:O.

That said, I'm interested in how it handles an alt+tab or even an escape (pause). DA:O still runs in the background, whereas Skyrim sleeps.
If you run something like Open Hardware Monitor you'll see what I mean.

- Launch the monitor
- Watch it for a minute to get a baseline
- Launch Skyrim and stand in game for 15 seconds
- Hit Alt+Tab
- Watch CPU and Graphics temps plummet
- Close Skyrim and repeat with DA:O
- CPU and Graphics may come down a little, but not much at all

As a parent of a 3 year old it I can't play for 10 minutes, alt+tab and walk away for 30, then play another 10 it's just not going to happen.
I'm definitely in the "technology should be obedient" crowd, and my computer should wait for me, not the other way around.

Mage-Templar conflict is original and awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820833)

Huge Dragon Age fan. I avoided the games till 2013 because so many people told me it was generic. The Mage-Templar conflict is very cool. How would you react if you found out your neighbor knew magic? Wouldn't you want them watched?

Re:Mage-Templar conflict is original and awesome (1)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 8 months ago | (#46820861)

No, I would want them to teach me. The mage-templar conflict is boring. Nothing interesting is going to be told there that hasn't already been said in DA1, and literally almost every other form of fantasy media available.

Re:Mage-Templar conflict is original and awesome (1)

JosKarith (757063) | about 8 months ago | (#46821281)

I just want to visit the Golden City in the Fade...

Press button for awesome (4, Informative)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 8 months ago | (#46820837)

To speak in the words of the venerable Michael Scott, "Fool me once, strike one, but fool me twice... strike three." What Bioware has proven over and over again is that they haven't been able to make any proper decisions involving their games since they released the "are you ready for the new shit?" trailer to promote DA1. Again and again they have alienated their core player base in order to appeal to a wider market... and failed. DA2 was a pile of shit, the ME3 ending an abortion that turned everything they said over the course of the development of the entire ME series into a lie ("the ending won't simply be a button you push in the last five minutes of the game!"), and the departure of the Doctors the final nail in the coffin. I'm not even going to pirate this. Before ME2, the last game worth my time Bioware produced came out in 2003. It's over, we're never going to get another Baldur's Gate 2, at least not from Bioware.

Though I'm hopeful about Pillars of Eternity.

Re:Press button for awesome (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46822053)

PoE looks promising, yes, and don't forget there is still some excellent community content [ign.com] being produced for the venerable NWN2 engine, which by now has had the release bugs fixed. Some of the community content is far better than what shipped with the game.

Re:Press button for awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46822539)

The NWN2 Engine is Obsidian and published by Atari. Bioware had nothing to do with it.

Re:Press button for awesome (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 8 months ago | (#46823861)

I think you follow game marketing more closely than you should. They're always going to exaggerate how new and exciting their games are going to be, so why listen to marketing?

DA1, for example, was enjoyable by most standards. I'm not sure what "new shit" you were expecting, since I didn't bother with the trailer, but if you had realistic expectations not buoyed by marketing hype, it was good.

Re:Press button for awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46824589)

Yes, they fucked up Dragon Age 2. But as someone who has played and enjoyed the Mass Effect series five times, I feel like they at least fixed the ending for that.

Re:Press button for awesome (1)

kamapuaa (555446) | about 8 months ago | (#46824967)

Before ME2, the last game worth my time Bioware produced came out in 2003.

DA:O was amazing, Jade Empire and Mass Effect 1 were very good as well.

save 30 hours (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46820993)

Assume it has a crap ending that is going to annoy you

Umm, anything look different in that video? (1)

fodder69 (701416) | about 8 months ago | (#46821953)

The combat looked exactly as crappy. I saw lots of rolling and the jump/zoom 40 feet to kill monster. They are making some noise about tactical gameplay, but the guy flat out says you can play the whole thing as an action game. The same shit that made DA2 combat suck. Without even getting into all the other ways DA2 sucked (amazingly ugly, emtpy levels, backtrack over same 3 places over and over, completely uncompelling story, forgettable characters, I honestly can't remember anything I actually liked). I was actually optimistic (stupid I know) until I saw that video. Ah well, I suppose I'll just save my pennies until Witcher 3 comes out.

Playing an Inquisitor is not an option (1)

gweihir (88907) | about 8 months ago | (#46822465)

Sorry, but the Inquisition and its agents is one of the darkest, most evil things humans ever did. I am not going to play one.

Co-op? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46822749)

I only played the 1st Dragon Age. I refuse to play a game that could easily support co-op. Bioware has some famous co-op games (Never Winter Nights) so they're just plain lazy for not adding co-op.

Nobody (1)

mfh (56) | about 8 months ago | (#46822789)

Nobody expects the Inquisition!

Fooled me last time (1)

bravecanadian (638315) | about 8 months ago | (#46823395)

I really enjoyed the first game. Pre-ordered the second. It was complete trash in comparison.

I'll be waiting for the user - not the lying paid critic - reviews before I fork out for this one.

Re:Fooled me last time (2)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about 8 months ago | (#46823965)

"It's different, now i hate it. It's the same, now I hate it"

I never pre-order anything. I'll never trust that a sequel will automatically be as good as the first. They have to change things up, but they also have to keep good things in. They are liable to make mistakes. Hopefully 3 will incorporate learnings made from the failure of DA2. But I won't pre-order it. I wouldn't pre-order a Borderlands 3 game, even though I was very happy with both BL1 and BL2.

They should never be able to fool people, but so many fall for the pre-order bonusses. I'm too pragmatic/cynical too go for them. I always wait for a steam sale, and more importantly, a video driver update or a post-launch patch to fix bugs not found in testing.

Like Dragon Age for a time (1)

Erich Pace (3630799) | about 8 months ago | (#46839053)

Dragon Age can be one of my favorite game, not only because I like the middle ages style, but also the way we players can play. I think the character of each people is very clear, they have their own styles of living attitude. But I still think DA1 is better than DA2 (or Bioware is preparing something amazing for DA3?), DA2's conception of world is a little small, it just happened in a small town, and just branch line of DA1..However, it's very nice of that DA2 can inheritthe data of DA1 !! And I'm going to play DA3 too.
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