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Virtual Reality: Purpose Beyond Gaming

Soulskill posted about 8 months ago | from the advertisers-will-invade-soon dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Virtual reality tech is getting a ton of attention for what it can do to video games. But the technology itself isn't limited to games — just as Kinect was hijacked and used for myriad other purposes, so will VR be broadly adapted. This article goes into some of the applications: 'An elderly woman in a retirement home recently used an Oculus to explore a garden and walk stairs again. This simple environment brought her to tears. Work is also being done to help PTSD sufferers deal with their trauma by replicating the scene within virtual reality and there is great interest in using a similar approach for other conditions like amnesia, Alzheimer's and dementia. ... It's now possible for museum spaces and schools to teleport students to specific moments in history, to allow them to experience being executed by a guillotine, take tours of space or even explore the depths of the ocean.' What other VR uses can you foresee?"

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Nice summary. (4, Funny)

Leonard Fedorov (1139357) | about 8 months ago | (#46876673)

Good thing it mentioned the anecdote about the eldery woman twice, otherwise I might have forgotten it. Clearly no one is proof reading these...

Re:Nice summary. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876705)

maybe Sterling could point out that black men are 6 or 7% of the population but commit over 50% of all murders. and other violent crimes.

avoiding blacks could simply boil down to not wanting to be a crime victim

Re:Nice summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876733)

maybe Sterling could point out that black men are 6 or 7% of the population but commit over 50% of all murders. and other violent crimes. avoiding blacks could simply boil down to not wanting to be a crime victim

might also explain why he had no problem with his half black lady "friend"

Re:Nice summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876821)

Who?

Redundancy Dept. of Redundancy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876779)

It must be redundently restated redundently, otherwise we'd all miss it!

Re:Nice summary. (5, Funny)

Bobakitoo (1814374) | about 8 months ago | (#46876823)

Good thing it mentioned the anecdote about the eldery woman twice, otherwise I might have forgotten it. Clearly no one is proof reading these...

It was for stereoscopy purpose. If you had the Oculus you could have seen it in 3d and it would have brought you to tears.

Re:Nice summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877539)

Now I'm confused? Damn you VR.

Either your right, 'It was for stereoscopy purpose. If you had the Oculus you could have seen it in 3d and it would have brought you to tears' or the editors have really dropped the ball.

Re:Nice summary. (2)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about 8 months ago | (#46877763)

I've been staring at it for ages trying to see the 3D image, and it's bringing ME to tears!

Re:Nice summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46879207)

Oh wow... a sailboat.

Re:Nice summary. (2)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about 8 months ago | (#46887293)

*Tackle*

Re:Nice summary. (4, Funny)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 8 months ago | (#46877129)

The Alzheimer is mentioned in the middle. That could give you a hint as to why that is. The Alzheimer is mentioned in the middle.

Re:Nice summary. (2)

Alzheimers (467217) | about 8 months ago | (#46877905)

It wasn't me...at least I'm pretty sure it wasn't.

Then again, I am quite interested in VR tech.

Re:Nice summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46952421)

K. S. Kyosuke: You've been called out (for tossing names) & you ran "forrest" from a fair challenge http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

Re:Nice summary. (1)

Katatsumuri (1137173) | about 8 months ago | (#46877131)

Maybe they can use VR to help Slashdot editors visualize the summaries. Or the crowds of disappointed readers.

Re:Nice summary. (1)

Daniel Hoffmann (2902427) | about 8 months ago | (#46877887)

Meh, by now I'am used to flashbacks to things that happened a few seconds ago...

Re:Nice summary. (1)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about 8 months ago | (#46880671)

I'm wondering if Occulus could help cure somehow managing to have a duplicate post within the same posting.

Re:Nice summary. (1)

drkim (1559875) | about 8 months ago | (#46887491)

...the anecdote about the eldery woman...

This was anticipated in the film "Strange Days" way back in 1995 (produced by James Cameron)
where a VR 'dealer' made a "running on the beach" recording to cheer up a wheelchair bound friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
(picture only)

An elderly owman in a retirement home recently... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876691)

... used an Oculus to explore a garden and walk stairs again. This simple environment brought her to tears. Work is also being done to help PTSD sufferers deal with their trauma by replicating the scene within virtual reality and there is great interest in using a similar approach for other conditions like amnesia, Alzheimer's and dementia. An elderly woman in a retirement home recently used an Oculus to explore a garden and walk stairs again. This simple environment brought her to tears. Work is also being done to help PTSD sufferers deal with their trauma by replicating the scene within virtual reality and there is great interest in using a similar approach for other conditions like amnesia, Alzheimer's and dementia and echolalia. An elderly woman in a retirement home recently used an Oculus to explore a garden and walk stairs again. This simple environment brought her to tears. Work is also being done to help PTSD sufferers deal with their trauma by replicating the scene within virtual reality and there is great interest in using a similar approach for other conditions like amnesia, Alzheimer's and dementia.

Re:An elderly owman in a retirement home recently. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876749)

'An elderly woman in a retirement home recently used an Oculus to explore a garden and walk stairs again. This simple environment brought her to tears. Work is also being done to help PTSD sufferers deal with their trauma by replicating the scene within virtual reality and there is great interest in using a similar approach for other conditions like amnesia, Alzheimer's and dementia. ..

oh wow the aging baby boomers are just going to LOVE this. because it will cost money. it'll be a whole new way for them to financially rape the younger generations. which is their favorite pasttime. oh joy! their BFFs in government will be oh so happy to buy their votes again!

Other uses... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876703)

What about combining it with hypnosis for truly interactive experiences?

virtual sex - what else? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876743)

now you can fulfill all your pedophile, nekrophile, sodomy, heterosexual ..... - phantasies without commiting a crime.
this will change masturbation forever.

Re:virtual sex - what else? (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | about 8 months ago | (#46876771)

Why not become a dog owner? you could do all of that with one or more.

Re:virtual sex - what else? (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 8 months ago | (#46877137)

I tried wearing my dog on my nose, but all I could see was fur. Your method definitely needs some improvement.

Re:virtual sex - what else? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46952409)

K. S. Kyosuke: You've been called out (for tossing names) & you ran "forrest" from a fair challenge http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

Re:virtual sex - what else? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46876793)

Until possession of VR porn becomes a crime. Don't think of the children!

Re:virtual sex - what else? (1)

Z80a (971949) | about 8 months ago | (#46877837)

I'm pretty sure at least 30% of usage from this device for this purpose will include one or more ponies.

Re:virtual sex - what else? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#46879879)

There's already a "get jerked off by an underage anime girl" app for it :-(

Re:virtual sex - what else? (1)

rochrist (844809) | about 8 months ago | (#46882515)

See Archer for details.

Re:virtual sex - what else? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46886035)

Jack Thompson was no lunatic, he was a prophet.

wrong dept (1)

Blaskowicz (634489) | about 8 months ago | (#46876755)

Can the story be changed to be from the Redundancy of Derpartment Redundancy?

...amnesia, Alzheimer's and dementia (1)

schreiend (1092383) | about 8 months ago | (#46876911)

as well as déjà vu.

Re:...amnesia, Alzheimer's and dementia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877223)

Isn't this a repost?

Wow (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 8 months ago | (#46876941)

Something designed for games can be re-purposed for something else? Wow... Next you'll be telling me that new Internet thing with all the porn can also host cat videos.

they missed the grand-daddy of em all.. (1)

somepunk (720296) | about 8 months ago | (#46877007)

Flight simulators. Of course, we've been using VR for these for decades, so it's not exactly news..

Porn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877035)

Porn

VR? What about drone-R? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877061)

Use the VR headsets ot stream the 3D video from drones/robots and make operating them that much easier/faster/safer.

Won't work on mars or the moon because of radio lags, obviously, but could still be interesting to use, at least locally. Inspecting the inside of pipes/tunnels could be that much faster.

Re:VR? What about drone-R? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877391)

Use the VR headsets ot stream the 3D video from drones/robots and make operating them that much easier/faster/safer.

Won't work on mars or the moon because of radio lags, obviously, but could still be interesting to use, at least locally. Inspecting the inside of pipes/tunnels could be that much faster.

Mars, no. Moon, might be doable. Depends what the drone is doing, but the moon is a bit over 2.5 seconds round trip, plus processing time.

Re:VR? What about drone-R? (1)

stewsters (1406737) | about 8 months ago | (#46877575)

That 2.5 seconds would still more than kill any benefit you get from it. example [hackaday.com]

Re:VR? What about drone-R? (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 8 months ago | (#46878611)

And you think that would be worse than operating a camera with a joystick and the same lag? Certainly the "reflexes" would have to be autonomous, but give the operator the ability for immersive situational awareness and I bet you they can make better and faster tactical decisions.

Just not social (2)

gajop (1285284) | about 8 months ago | (#46877081)

Any use of VR is fine, with gaming, medical and tourism being the most amazing from my perspective.
That said, I would hate to see it become predominantly a platform for social networks as Zuckerberg has envisioned. That stuff has the potential to ruin the technology by integrating itself too deeply.

Re:Just not social (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877201)

Twitter hasn't just ruined the Internet, Twitter has ruined everything. Why, just yesterday I was enjoying a cold beverage in the real world, until I noticed a Twitter logo on the side of the can, reminding me to tweet my appreciation for the beverage brand. Keep Twitter out of my mouth, I say!

fake society purpose beyond deception (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877151)

walking on water not perfected yet http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=weather+manipulation+wmd cleansing reconstruction underway http://youtu.be/WSCHKimgy1s

Kinect comparison in the summary is lame. (1)

Katatsumuri (1137173) | about 8 months ago | (#46877159)

I hope it gets broader adoption than Kinect or those Wii sports novelties.

virtual workspace (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877185)

give me a 3d world that i can place virtual displays in - wherever i want, whatever size i want. right now, in the physical world, i have three monitors at my desk and could realistically make use of a fourth. but, between the cost of an additional display and a the cost of an additional video card (i've used all my existing video ports), my boss won't let that happen. but with a vr headset, we can eliminate all those displays and simply place me in a virtual world where i can create, at will, as many displays as i need in 3 dimensional space. couple this with something like a leap motion or kinect to do hand tracking and slap a few ir markers on my keyboard and mouse. now i can view virtual representations of my keyboard and mouse, as well as my hands. with this, i can type and move the mouse while getting real world haptic feedback as well as visual.

its a quick and easy way to turn my little cubicle into a spacious office and to add display capability without adding cost

Re:virtual workspace (1)

Flentil (765056) | about 8 months ago | (#46879343)

You could create a 5th virtual display to constantly remind you that some words get capitalized and that typing in all lowercase is lazy, and it makes you look bad to your boss and anyone else who reads what you type. Typing in all lowercase is no better than your mom typing everything in all caps.

Snow Crash (1)

Katatsumuri (1137173) | about 8 months ago | (#46877255)

There have been many sci-fi novels about virtual worlds and their economy, and they inspire a lot of people. I have spoken to people eager to "relocate" into virtual reality with most of their business and even personal life. I guess it's because virtual worlds simplify or ignore many boring details of life.

Even the current, far from perfect, simulations like Second Life, WoW or Lineage have so many fans that it shows the potential for adoption.

If Facebook and other vendors make it right, it can be a smooth continuum of shades of VR, from games, through virtual art galleries, shows and meeting places (like Second Life or Minecraft), and to 3D chat and augmented reality.

And of course porn.

dentists... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877467)

As I have a needle phobia I was part of a trial involving oculus with my dentist. It didn't work and I was mostly disappointed that whilst I could wonder around and not talk to the dentist the detail was too low to really get lost in it. I want to pick flowers or roll in grass and see the details as I investigate.

CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (2)

Grey Geezer (2699315) | about 8 months ago | (#46877577)

are a couple of the more practical, less warm and fuzzy, places where I thought VR would have been employed much sooner.

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46878581)

Simple example: iFixit teardowns, recorded, rendered into point-cloudy 3D models, with you being able to get any angle or closeup. Yes please!

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 8 months ago | (#46878699)

Maintenance manuals? I could see AR being wonderful for those, but VR?I don't see it adding much beyond what having a rotatable 3D model of the system on screen in an electronic manual would offer. Potentially less actually, since you can't glance at the manual while working.

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46878907)

That depends on scale. Airplane technicians would love to avoid carrying tons of paper to figure out what the fuck they are staring at sometimes. Same stuff with ships. Manuals are especially cumbersome when you have to walk 100 feet to find where the problem is.

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 8 months ago | (#46879081)

And having to take on and off a VR helmet would be an improvement? I could see the benefit of electronic manuals on a sunlight-readable tablet. Even more so an Augmented Reality based reader that presented the manual floating in air in front of you. But VR? VR offers stereoscopy and isolation from the real world in preference to a virtual one. I don't see how either contributes to the effectiveness of a maintenance manual.

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (1)

del_diablo (1747634) | about 8 months ago | (#46881637)

Yes, once tech gets there. Essentially "google glass like models for manuals".
And its not been that long since I played Metal Gear Rising, whatever about the game, but they got their terminology right: AR for manuals would be really nice. VR would likely have no practical use until a genius comes along with a good idea.

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 8 months ago | (#46884829)

Well, I wouldn't say *no* use - I imagine controlling a remote robot via VR could be extremely useful for doing maintenance in hostile environments. Need to make some slow, demanding repairs inside the reactor chamber of a nuclear plant?

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (1)

Grey Geezer (2699315) | about 8 months ago | (#46884647)

You aren't thinking big enough. When a really big machine is scheduled to go down for PM, it would be helpful for the team to do a "walk-through" before hand. Electricians, machinists, pipe-fitters, and millwrights might be able to pre-plan and coordinate all of their assignments prior to the shut-down. New members of the team could be brought up to speed pre-shutdown also.

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 8 months ago | (#46885277)

An excellent thought, though I think at that point you've departed from anything that could reasonably be referred to as a repair manual. Repair simulator maybe.

Re:CAD, and Maintenance Manuals (1)

azcoyote (1101073) | about 8 months ago | (#46878745)

Maintenance manuals are a good idea, but VR editions would probably cost more time and money than a company is willing to spend, especially when they'd rather have to buy something new than fix something old.

My first exposure to VR (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46877687)

Somewhere in the 1991 timeframe, my lab in Houston started working with VR for training. Intelsat 603 was rescued by the crew of STS-49. Attempts to capture the satellite required 3 EVA before they were successful. One element of the training was the use of a new VR tool to attempt to teach the crew just how little force would cause unwanted vector changes. Crew enthusiasm was "limited", as I recall, for this training method. During preliminary testing, I was one of the guinea pigs who was frustrated into getting the forces right.

What brings me to tears... (1)

Trailer Trash (60756) | about 8 months ago | (#46877709)

is /. editors. Maybe I could go to a virtual world where /. has real editors?

Working like Clockwork (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about 8 months ago | (#46877775)

I can imagine great potential for using this in conjunction with the Ludovico Technique [wikipedia.org]

We know what its really all about (4, Funny)

voss (52565) | about 8 months ago | (#46877893)

*band if you please*

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Stereo Microscopy/Macroscopy (1)

LittleBunny (1021415) | about 8 months ago | (#46878057)

Microscopy: put cameras and microphones on a very small physical avatar (say, the size of a Lego minifig). Walk/drive it around in a real miniature environment-- say, a Lego city built on a tabletop, with real people also in the room. Enjoy. Refine. Make something cool. Macroscopy: place cameras and microphones widely spaced apart and high above the ground-- on the side of a skyscraper, a cell tower, or suspended from a blimp. Or on the ISS. Figure out how to incorporate something like looking-around movement to the rig. Pretend to be a giant, or a giant space creature. Have fun.

Re:Stereo Microscopy/Macroscopy (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 8 months ago | (#46878405)

Microscopy: put cameras and microphones on a very small physical avatar (say, the size of a Lego minifig). Walk/drive it around in a real miniature environment-- say, a Lego city built on a tabletop, with real people also in the room. Enjoy. Refine. Make something cool.

That... actually sounds like a metric shit-tonne of fun. Like MarioKart meets Minecraft meets Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.

VR: Purpose Beyond Gaming? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46878723)

How about an Editor?

Bizn4tch (-1)

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frist stowp (-1, Troll)

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At last... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46880113)

I can finally live with my waifu!

Isn't a guillotine simulator... (1)

Seor Jojoba (519752) | about 8 months ago | (#46881939)

...just a view of the basket that your head is going to drop into? Maybe there is an option to lay down face up towards the sky.

porn, then everything else. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46883081)

Porn, because that's where the money is.

After they've shown everyone (interested) that it works. I can see the technology in teaching hospitals (I'd buy that video game) and any other hands-on-training schools.

After that, my girlfriend and I can buy a pair of them. I'll be able to do her in ways she won't currently allow (which is her right) and she'll be able to do Sean Connery (at 35), Ron Jeremy (at 18) and the capitain of the Titanic.

That is Easy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46883147)

Making my waifu Liru come alive in more interacting ways than plain ol' Second Life

Holodeck (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | about 8 months ago | (#46883849)

One word answer: Holodeck.

(...or at the very least, the first baby steps towards such a thing...)

Full immersion virtual reality will be awesome. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46884265)

I've been thinking about the possibilities of full immersion virtual reality for a while. People tend to focus on things like flying, playing games, having sex with strangers without consequences, and swimming with strange creatures in the deep ocean. But it will also enable us to be somewhere (virtually or physically) via telepresence, and feel like we're actually there. Imagine if you could visit a member of your family in another state, sit with them in their living room, even hug them. You could "teleport" anywhere in the physical world that was properly virtualized and experience the sights, sounds, and even smells of the locale. You could interact with the people as if you were there (with a bit of awkwardness due to lag). You could be "present" during a riot or revolution and get a firsthand look at what's going down.

Shamless plug: I'm serializing a hard sci-fi story about the potential future of full-immersion virtual reality. It's on the web, completely free, and doesn't even have ads: http://livingoutside.net

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